Monday, September 27, 2010

Re: Burglar being Beaten

Think your off the mark. Till today, Shariah law is being applied in North but the south is exempted bse they are are not Muslims.  I was explaining the rationale of the Islamic law which is highly misunderstood by many people and i pointed out the facts comparing  mob justice which some members of the forum have supported in relation to the merciless treatment of the burglar and the conventional law  where someone for stealing a phone worth 1,000 can be hanged. Put yr bigotry aside, and in all fairness, can the beauty of Islamic law be matched by any law? If you have one bring it over. This is my challenge to you!

Abu Ayman

From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 4:39:17 PM
Subject: Re: Burglar being Beaten

Abu,
 
How come that this angle of yours was not accorded the people who live in Southern Sudan. And why is it that the Law was only applied in that area yet not on the Northern part which is predominantly Muslim. I think this Sharia Law of yours is arbitrary. It is a law that is not impartial and has no place in Kenya which embraces all religions. Let the Constitution and the Laws of the Land take precedent and not some arbitrary religious Law which depends on the whims and emotions of a religious biased judge.
 
Just my two cents.
 
Jagem


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com; park-road-youth@googlegroups.com; kiswahili@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 10:07:03 AM
Subject: Re: Burglar being Beaten


People have spoken against Islamic law saying it is barbaric and outdated.  Yet such barbaric scenes constantly arise and those who see Islamic law as harsh are silent on such issues.  Others even condone mob justice arguing that it helps in taming crime where the police has failed.
We have seen petty criminals losing their lives through such scenes and even through the judicial system where a violent robber if found guilty even for cases which involve a a mobile phone worth Sh 1,000 is sentenced to death.
Islamic law on the other hand is totally against this kind of barbarism. While the Shariah amputating the hand is punishment for burglars, this can only be done after putting into consideration the value of the product stolen and also it has to be proved that the offender is a habitual thief and he had no justifiable reason for such a person to engage in that criminal activity. If such a person can for example prove that he resorted committing that particular crime. If he can convince the court that he resorted to the crime to  feed his family which which was on the verge of starvation, he is not only set free but the state has a responsibility to look after his welfare so that he cannot be able to resort to the the crime in the future.
In cases where the thief  was 'tempted', for instance leaving yr car with the window open and the phone on the dashboard, it is you who will be blamed and the thief will be left off the hook.
This is the essence of the often maligned Islamic judicial system, the Shariah.

Abu Ayman



From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, September 24, 2010 4:20:23 PM
Subject: Burglar being Beaten


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