Re: Methodist University an Epitome and Fountain of Tribalism
Likondi think beyond your tail. This was an example that was meant to trigger debate on tribalism. Its 21 st century and many in this forum have gone to school..I guess gumbaru ended more than ten years-where did u learn computers?? Even sheep have started to think pwana...
--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Papa Likondi <papalikondi@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Papa Likondi <papalikondi@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Methodist University an Epitome and Fountain of Tribalism To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 4:34 AM
Christine
Have you checked Masinde Muliro? The University is full of BUKUSUs even the junior staff are all from BUNGOMA District and not Kakamega.
Shame on you for seeing the peck in Meru yet you can not see the log in your eyes. Bureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Kabisaaaaaa you make me sick and I feel like puking in your mouth.
From: beth wambugu <lahviniah@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Methodist University an Epitome and Fountain of Tribalism To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 7:09 AM
Malcom,
Since it looks like you are well versed with institutions administration can you as well send as the make up of the other various learning institutions around as as mary an said then we can compare and come up withy a cohesive conclusion of way forward and may be even advise them.
The staff at Kemu are doing agood Job and the students can attest to that or anyone else in the panel who is a stakeholder.
I can see that you came up a list of the admin staff, maybe you should have come with various lists from many insititutions then we can compare and further see whether what is happening at KEMU is unique to what happens to the other places
2. so what is your problem, if they choose to have people for the same tribe? is it the tribe that you have a problem with or KEMU the insititution?
I agree. In the case of KEMU, I also agree with you that such religious affiliated institution are forced to put in the management especially the University council and board of trustee church members. We all know that Methodist is almost exclusively Meru and have only heard of other branches in TZ and so we are bound to see more Meru folks. However they have a moral (not legal) obligation to put folks from other areas and I think they have done that. They need to attract students and faculty from other areas and so the "need for affirmitive" action.
I think KEMU is facing more conflicts arising out of differences between church leaders and groups. My former Prof. who is also ex President of Methodist Church, Bishop Prof. Nthamburi has taken the council to court over interference with the running of the institution and this seem to be a major headache for KEMU than the balancing act:
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, <kibaya@aol.com> wrote:
Kuria and Nyongesa, I completely agree with you on the value of integrating students of all cultures and backgrounds, and for them to receive instruction from an equally diverse faculty. However, there is no indication this is not happening at KEMU; In fact one time I happened to be passing by their Meru Campus and stopped for a chat with students streaming out of the gates. It was siasa time so I attracted a sizeable crowd; surprisingly, majority of them were Nairobi folks, mostly of Kikuyu extraction. A few Luhyas, Kisiis and other tribes.
The downtown Nbi Campus is also hub of activity and even without interacting with them, it's unlikely that Baite's will be of any significant proportion. Can't speak on the faculty composition, but again it's unlikely that this kind of buzz can be generated by a parochial collection of staffers.
A drink is in order Kuria...one of these days; provided queen wams is gonna be there!
Sent: Sun, Jul 11, 2010 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Methodist University an Epitome and Fountain of Tribalism
Nyongesa, I am with you on us mixing with people from different societies. I mourn the exist of A-levels and the days when you could apply and study in any part of the country. There was no A-level school which had students from one locality. That quota system was a disaster. They should have changed the system of education without introducing those quota systems. I still think my two years at Mbita Point opened my eyes and made me appreciate other groups. In that class, we had students from all over the country. I cant even remember whether Luos were the majority in A-Levels. I remember the many questions asked about Central and the jokes and the time spent learning Dholuo which has evaporated now but my best memories remains on cold reception I received from my "tribesmen" when my suitcase was stolen at OTC place at night as I prepared to sit for my exams in Third term. With hope lost of ever passing and with mock exams giving me only 6 points and now with books and clothes gone, I gave up. My friends from Central had unkind words for me for "being careless and also blamed my old man who was with me". Fellows from the areas heard them and I got the notes from unexpected areas. One student went to Kaksingiri to get notes left by his brother for History and Geography. They came from Kagumo High school and I relied on them. I came top of that class in both subjects and in the school, being the only two people to join University. Up to now I think I may not have joined any ones University if I studied in Central. I had flopped in Form Four and had a weak second division with only 4 subjects passed to enable me join form 5. The environment made me pass but the support I got from folks especially the Luo friends in particular the fellow who sacrificed his weekend to get me notes in Kaksingiri. I think that also prepared me for getting friends and being at home with people from all corners of the country. At the university many were only comfortable with own tribesmen and you could tell who had come from a school where people mixed with fellows from different parts of the country.
Yes, we should not encourage in-breeding and we should be made to "mix" and be taught by national teachers and lives with Kenyans not own tribesmen.
Tim, l respect you but before you group people as tribalists and credit KEMU Administration as having got jobs as individual, ask yourself if the campus is after national reflection or not. Whether you like or not very competent kenyans or outside will fear when they browse to check the administration. On line of culture and language accent a person from such tribally constituted institutions will never accept nor appreciate others with positive mind of change. Imagine l being a luhya, taught by luhya teacher from pre-unit to campus within my community(including communication and food). Is there any day l will differentiate between P for papa and B for brother or baba? Is there any day l will appreciate other kind of food other than ugali? Same to culture.
When vacancies were advertised in the same institution most people from where l was were discouraged and some of were encouraging only Mt. Kenya to send application. Imagine it was before the full list of top management was out. I didn't know the reason behind this. May the Methodist Church take action to reflect national pride. J.N.N.
On 7/10/10, Tim Arnold <tim472@gmail.com> wrote: > It's the opposite u r the real tribalist not KEMU. Learn to look at > people as individuals like yourself first then everything last. I'm > sure they all got their post as individuals not tribes. If u can't > join other universities it's ur choice. > > Tim > > On 7/9/10, JOSEPH NYONGESA <josefnyongesa@gmail.com> wrote: >> Imagine l sobbed myself after seeing these names. It seems campus is >> for a community and an outsider whether student or staff may fear to >> join it. >> Any person near or from within shed more on how it is run: in local >> language. >> >> Sincerely administration should do something to portray KEMU as a >> national if not international campus by reconstituting its >> appointment. >> I think teachers from other community will bring cultures from other >> communities for murume to appreciate. For example employ a gifted luo >> or luhya lecture to make murume enter entertainment scenes(singing). >> J.N.N >> >> On 7/9/10, Malcolm Boy Oteh <malcolmboy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Walalahoi I just checked the admin of Kemu and you can all make judgement >>> of >>> yourself but to me this should not be encouraged in this country. Here is >>> the list: - >>> >>> Rev. Dr. Stephen Kanyaru M'Impwii >>> Chancellor (Chair)Rev. Isaya Deye >>> Mrs. Hellen Mung'athia Mr. Tutus K Ibui Mr. Reuben Marambii >>> Mr. Gitonga K Muriuki >>> Dr. Sheila Ryanga >>> Dr. Richard Bagine >>> Dr. Glady's Mwiti >>> Dr. Jesse Kamau >>> Prof. Afred Mutema >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Members of the University Council* >>> Rev. Dr. Stephen Kanyaru M'ImpwiiChancellor (Chair)Rev. Bishop Daniel >>> Mutea >>> Inoti >>> Prof. Elias Njoka >>> Dr. Peter Ngatia >>> Hon. Dr. Linah Chebii Kilimo >>> Mr. Brighton Ochieng' Dr. Jotham Micheni >>> Mr. Reuben Marambii Mrs. Dorothy Kamwilu Prof. Afred Mutema
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