Otieno,
Kindly clarify , proposed katiba says that every adult has the right to marry a person of the opposite sex, based on the free consent of parties. True.
Now this person (can it include a child. Under 18)?
Also consider that the harmonized draft included the following under 42 (3) Every adult has the right to found a family
Which was omitted in the proposed draft. (was it coincidence)
I would have been comfortable if the proposed had the same so that every adult can marry and only adults have the right to found a family…..???
CoE was upto some mischief…….
Some more mischief….
Harmonized Draft
State and religion
10. (1) State and religion shall be separate.
(2) There shall be no State religion.
(3) The State shall treat all religions equally
But if you look at the ……
Proposed
State and religion
8. There shall be no State religion.
So the question is why delete that
i)the state and religion shall be separate and
iii) the state shall treat all religions equally
whose interests are being addressed here?
From: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of otieno sungu
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:51 AM
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: charlotim@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The NO seem to be losig everyone with the contentious issues!!!
And Ngige,
This is about the KATIBA, you are mixing issues here, God is for all of us and not the NO side only. If anything, the NO side is lying more than anything else.
Here is evidence about it, they say there will be gay marriages if the draft passes, if you are a man of God as you claim, confirm or deny if this is true, I give you here the evidence of what the draft KATIBA says.
45 (2) Every adult has the right to marry a person of the opposite
sex, based on the free consent of the parties.
Now, tell us who is lying, the draft KATIBA or Ruto and Jirongo?? I hope, unlike Ruto and Jirongo, you know who your opposite sex is, if you don't, then don't invoke the name of God on this because even God cannot help you with that.
Otieno Sungu
Otieno,
I'm happy with your stand to vote yes. But remember its no longer about the numbers... Its not about the majority... When God want to do something major, he does not need a full army, he only needs a few men who will remain faithful to Him and obey Him!
Baraka!
Tim.On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM, otieno sungu <sunoti@yahoo.com> wrote:
The NO lost most Muslims with the continued persecution of the Kadhi Courts, they then lost most Kenyans with the continued lies about the land clause which the majority think are very good except those who fear for stolen land being repossesed. They lost most women when they insisted this KATIBA is poison yet it gives women many positives including the right to inherit land, then they lost the flock of the church with the blatant misinformation and propaganda regarding abortion and same sex marriages, now they are losing the clergy as civic education proper is going on and the men of God are trooping back to the side of the truth.Who will remain in the no camp? (except for the obvious ones).Otieno Sungu
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