Re: RUTO`S BELATED REFERENCE TO SUPER MAJORITY IN AUGUST PLEBISCITE IS A PLOY.

Makwiny,

that was an hypocrite who wanted to selfishly attack a NO crusader and then claim he is a pastor to discredit the NO team so that they can be seen as their own attckers. that was so cheap of you. Please take note that he was a PNU councillor from Githunguri. all this are selfish plans by YES activist aftyer sensing defeat.

we are all aware of the Propaganda campaign of the YES tenats in the name of Opinion polsters. why allover sudden they have sprung up to sing YES----simply to get money from BIG brother.

Remember my brother that the so-called polsters have to pay salary to their staff and incur overheads, where do you think they are getting money apart from soliciting for cheap favopurs from government so that they propagate their views. its businees ndugu, but as you said WATCH THIS SPACE too we will defeat you to the last breath!!!!

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Lee Makwiny <amosogal@gmail.com> wrote:

Biywo,

You and who else will reject the result!!!! I thought you were sure of winning!

You will be surprised! We are winning with over 70% votes!

With the ways pastors are carrying bombs, watch this space!!

On 7/18/10, Buiywo Siongiki <kubesto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Francis,
> if we do not follow internationaly recognized standards as a measure of
> authenticty, then why are we currently crying foul for Ocampo and the ICC to
> carry the day? that way we mean we dont recognize any internatinla LAW just
> for the sake of ratifying a flawed doc as the PCK. For your info that means
> we are reasoning in a bale dimension and applying double standards.
> we will reject the outcome if it does not garner 65% of the registered vote.
> You and Otieno Sungu can go to court to protest, we dont care!!
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, otieno sungu <sunoti@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>  Francis,
>>
>> You have captured it well. Voting is not a compulsory exercise and only
>> the
>> vote of those who are eligible to vote and actually vote counts. Those who
>> abstain or vote in the negative cannot hold the wishes of the majority at
>> ransom.
>>
>> On August 4th, what the majority vote, and the majority here being those
>> eligible to vote and actually go out there to cast their vote will
>> rule.Period.
>>
>> Otieno Sungu
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Francis Tome <tomefrancis@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sun, July 18, 2010 1:11:19 PM
>> *Subject:* RUTO`S BELATED REFERENCE TO SUPER MAJORITY IN AUGUST PLEBISCITE
>> IS A PLOY.
>>
>>    Dear Sir/Madam,
>>
>> In an interview that was aired by Radio Maisha and published in the Sunday
>> Standard Newspaper of 18th July 2010, honorable William Ruto said that the
>> results of the August plebiscite will raise serious questions if the
>> proponents of the proposed constitution win with a margin of less than 65%
>> of the eligible voters. In other words honorable Ruto is telling all and
>> sundry that he will not hesitate to declare the referendum outcome null
>> and
>> void should it be below the international threshold. In his estimation at
>> least 7 million Kenyans have to vote for the proposed constitution for it
>> to
>> enjoy legitimacy.
>>
>> Interestingly, it is honorable William Ruto and the entire No Brigade that
>> have dissuaded the country from ratifying international laws which in
>> their
>> opinion are dangerous to our democratic well being. Using the same
>> reasoning
>> I dare say that we must not use such an international law to midwife our
>> constitution.
>>
>> Acceding to such whimsical demands is tantamount to entrenching double
>> standards. This is obviously Ruto`s ploy to ensure that the opponents of
>> the
>> proposed constitution defeat the fundamental tenet of democracy which
>> explicitly states that the majority rules. In other words he is
>> desperately
>> attempting to ensure the absolute power of the minority. Such an inimical
>> requirement also means that the minority can be declared the winners for
>> merely abstaining from voting!
>>
>> Subjecting Kenyans to such a requirement would mean that we will end up
>> like the Ontarians who in 2005 held a referendum where 57% of eligible
>> voters voted for change yet, because of a threshold law, the 43% minority
>> ruled the day. To the majority of Ontarians this was indeed a very sad
>> day.
>>
>> The Montenegrins on seeing the fundamental flaws in the international
>> threshold law became wiser. Their law on referendums states that the
>> decision is to be taken by a majority of citizens eligible to vote.
>> However,
>> it does not fix any exact figure. To them, a simple majority is enough to
>> make a referendum decision valid.
>>
>> Back home, when Kenya held a referendum in 2005, there was no reference to
>> the now much hyped international threshold. We generally agreed that the
>> rule of the majority applies. But today, on sensing defeat, the opponents
>> of
>> the proposed constitution find it convenient to flaunt the threshold
>> requirement as if voting is a mandatory exercise!
>>
>> From the foregoing I find the recommendation of a 65% supermajority
>> threshold for the upcoming referendum a blatant disrespect for the very
>> process of constitutionalism that we ourselves have strived to set up for
>> many decades. This requirement contains a virus which is dangerous to the
>> stability of our country when it comes to the implementation of the
>> results.
>>
>>
>> TOME FRANCIS,
>>
>> BUMULA.
>>
>> http://twitter.com/tomefrancis
>>
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