Monday, July 19, 2010

Re: RUTO`S BELATED REFERENCE TO SUPER MAJORITY IN AUGUST PLEBISCITE IS A PLOY.

As I said earlier the huge Tsunami wave is visiously fast aproaching and there's
a stampede towards the safe hilltop to gain a space in the Noah's Ark.

They may not have noticed the huge percentage of undecided in the opinion poll
in RV, who may have been skeptical about the laughable recycled lies on selected
abortion and land issues, but may soon switch over to the YES due to intensified
civc education. 

The NO side may have given up earlier on other swing vote baskets like Nyanza
N.Eastern, where they fear that the "Mzee amesoma na ametuambia he kitu ni
mzuri, so who are we to reject it as we have a chance to recall back a non
perfoming Mbunge". Though the people there too are starved of their
campaign theatrics and also deserve to be told the NO gospel.

Buiywo and Co. will soon realise after 4th August that they've been duped and
isolated from the rest of Kenyans by people who are inconsistently pathological
liars, out to use them for selfishness and self agrandisment. No Kenyan can
trust leaders who tell open lies as if they are the only only know how to read
and interprate.

The question is what will be next after the Referendum sails through with over
70% as the water melons have too switched over to YES full time now.
Will the usual orchestra with lead vocalists like Kutuny reassemble their troops
for what agenda next after that.   

----- Original Message ----
From: Lee Makwiny <amosogal@gmail.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 9:07:48 AM
Subject: Re: RUTO`S BELATED REFERENCE TO SUPER MAJORITY IN AUGUST PLEBISCITE IS
A PLOY.

Biywo,

You and who else will reject the result!!!! I thought you were sure of winning!

You will be surprised! We are winning with over 70% votes!

With the ways pastors are carrying bombs, watch this space!!

On 7/18/10, Buiywo Siongiki <kubesto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Francis,
> if we do not follow internationaly recognized standards as a measure of
> authenticty, then why are we currently crying foul for Ocampo and the ICC to
> carry the day? that way we mean we dont recognize any internatinla LAW just
> for the sake of ratifying a flawed doc as the PCK. For your info that means
> we are reasoning in a bale dimension and applying double standards.
> we will reject the outcome if it does not garner 65% of the registered vote.
> You and Otieno Sungu can go to court to protest, we dont care!!
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, otieno sungu <sunoti@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>  Francis,
>>
>> You have captured it well. Voting is not a compulsory exercise and only
>> the
>> vote of those who are eligible to vote and actually vote counts. Those who
>> abstain or vote in the negative cannot hold the wishes of the majority at
>> ransom.
>>
>> On August 4th, what the majority vote, and the majority here being those
>> eligible to vote and actually go out there to cast their vote will
>> rule.Period.
>>
>> Otieno Sungu
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Francis Tome <tomefrancis@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sun, July 18, 2010 1:11:19 PM
>> *Subject:* RUTO`S BELATED REFERENCE TO SUPER MAJORITY IN AUGUST PLEBISCITE
>> IS A PLOY.
>>
>>    Dear Sir/Madam,
>>
>> In an interview that was aired by Radio Maisha and published in the Sunday
>> Standard Newspaper of 18th July 2010, honorable William Ruto said that the
>> results of the August plebiscite will raise serious questions if the
>> proponents of the proposed constitution win with a margin of less than 65%
>> of the eligible voters. In other words honorable Ruto is telling all and
>> sundry that he will not hesitate to declare the referendum outcome null
>> and
>> void should it be below the international threshold. In his estimation at
>> least 7 million Kenyans have to vote for the proposed constitution for it
>> to
>> enjoy legitimacy.
>>
>> Interestingly, it is honorable William Ruto and the entire No Brigade that
>> have dissuaded the country from ratifying international laws which in
>> their
>> opinion are dangerous to our democratic well being. Using the same
>> reasoning
>> I dare say that we must not use such an international law to midwife our
>> constitution.
>>
>> Acceding to such whimsical demands is tantamount to entrenching double
>> standards. This is obviously Ruto`s ploy to ensure that the opponents of
>> the
>> proposed constitution defeat the fundamental tenet of democracy which
>> explicitly states that the majority rules. In other words he is
>> desperately
>> attempting to ensure the absolute power of the minority. Such an inimical
>> requirement also means that the minority can be declared the winners for
>> merely abstaining from voting!
>>
>> Subjecting Kenyans to such a requirement would mean that we will end up
>> like the Ontarians who in 2005 held a referendum where 57% of eligible
>> voters voted for change yet, because of a threshold law, the 43% minority
>> ruled the day. To the majority of Ontarians this was indeed a very sad
>> day.
>>
>> The Montenegrins on seeing the fundamental flaws in the international
>> threshold law became wiser. Their law on referendums states that the
>> decision is to be taken by a majority of citizens eligible to vote.
>> However,
>> it does not fix any exact figure. To them, a simple majority is enough to
>> make a referendum decision valid.
>>
>> Back home, when Kenya held a referendum in 2005, there was no reference to
>> the now much hyped international threshold. We generally agreed that the
>> rule of the majority applies. But today, on sensing defeat, the opponents
>> of
>> the proposed constitution find it convenient to flaunt the threshold
>> requirement as if voting is a mandatory exercise!
>>
>> From the foregoing I find the recommendation of a 65% supermajority
>> threshold for the upcoming referendum a blatant disrespect for the very
>> process of constitutionalism that we ourselves have strived to set up for
>> many decades. This requirement contains a virus which is dangerous to the
>> stability of our country when it comes to the implementation of the
>> results.
>>
>>
>> TOME FRANCIS,
>>
>> BUMULA.
>>
>> http://twitter.com/tomefrancis
>>
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