Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....

Yes, I schooled during Nyayo era - 1978 when I was in form 1 President Kenyatta died, then Nyayo took over...by the way, it did not only start at nyayo era, we used to hear kitambo when growing up in the village of special branch, that is how the villagers called them - by then people were really scared of speaking matters politics because one would be picked anytime anywhere. I guess even now, it is even more intense but more covered up so that one can not easily tell who is who.   True, it is said some Kenyans like doing things opposite - until there is this Kikuyu artist who has composed a song, that he will be changing even posters to read opposite e.g if it is usikojoe hapa, he will write kojoa hapa - so that they don't.   Blessings!. --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:09 PM Dear Pam, You seem to have gone to school during the KANU era, especially the Kanu ni baba na mama days. We had many of such CID folks attending school. They were known because they flopped each and every year and this was intentional. That allowed them to rewind every year. They would attend each and every Kamukunji and as you narrated they were always sneaking to the front. A few of them got caught during riots and were stoned. One was splashed with hot soup in KU one day during the teachers strike in mid 80s and was never seen again.   I will pray for peace, starting with prayers for the fellow from my county who is inciting they young man. He always does the opposite of everyone so forgive him. He like the infamous woman in those primary school story books. The one who always did the opposite of what her hubby wanted. So to get her do something, he asked her to do what he didnt want her do such as asking that she does not wash his clothes because she would. So the day she drowned in the river, the husband asked those seaching for her body to look for her upstream.   I cant remember whether that story was in the same book with Simon Makonde fellow. The one born on a monday, married on a tuesday and had those rites of passage on each day. We got confused as to whether he was a one week old fellow or one lucky to have the special seven days. The book was Safari something.   Take care and continue giving advise to the young and the old. Kuria On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM, pamela butalanyi <butalanyipk@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks KM,   But it is unfortunate that I had to respond that publicly to the young man, maybe he needs help...maybe counselling. Because it is not very kind, that anyone in a respectful relationship that they value, can table what goes on in the bedroom on a public forum like this one. Imagine if it was the girl who went to a public place in some meeting and talks about his weaknesses and her parts(oops!). I believe it will not go down well with him.   As for Lily(if at all she existed on the forum), I guess she is a smart girl... and calling Jaaak, for that favourite meal, and she is as smart as typical smart girls, ... could be a serious discussion session to get to the bottom of the issue of BF discussing her, forget about his goods but DISCUSSING HER..on the ''lunatics forum''..did he say?.   That is the ugly side of social networks!...you never can tell, who is keenly reading your threads!..could...even be FBI or  for Kenya NSIS!. Or even people presenting themselves as Jacktone, could be NSIS!...such kind of their discussions only dupes one to assume him, and think he is only a buffoon, but in reality, he could be at serious work. Reminds me of when we were at college. There was a certain gentleman, who was very smart...but there was something noticeable about this guy apart from just being as any ordinary student. Whenever he could see a crowd, he made sure that he snaked his way to be among the crowd, or any two to three people speaking with their heads together, the gentleman would be in their midst in a flash of a second!...he was in most case seen rushing suddenly to some destination and back. When it comes to Christian union club ...ah.. he was on the frontline...he could sing until he sweats!..We discovered later that the gentleman was CID and was gathering information...this one was in our department....and It was said they were a number of them sponsored by the government that time, and were deployed in other departments.   Anyway, pray for peace in your capacity as Askofu..and we let the matter rest and we forget about that unfortunate occurrence.     Blessings!.      --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 6:04 AM You make me think that whoever you claim is girlfriend writting might not be at all... could be you yourself. ...and the fact that most people here don't parade their girlfriends, boyfriends or husbands or wives... Pam, I think the truth lies above. I doubted there was a girlfriend and the young man just wanted folks to payuker about the issue. That is why I preferred using a circumcised form of her last name and just called Pet. I think he was referring to other "lunatics" in the fora who spews nonsense and I believe he belongs to that club. You dont even come close:). That "lady" needed to leave in order to protect her from the nonsense sometimes written on these fora by the main architects of the upuzi led by the boyfriend. She would have left anyway but instead of going to his house as she did, she would leave him. Wise move on his part. I hope he has led your comments and digested the info. You have spoken very well. You may be younger than me on age but I think I would consult on these maneno ya mapenzi. Most time when I face crises on relationships, I dont go to seek advise from my male peers. I seek women, some younger than me by far, some older and seek their opinion. I get good feedback because I trust women on relationships counseling than I trust men. Men get emotional and ask you to overreact. Men will tell you what you want to hear after figuring out the problems. Women will tell what ought to be done even if that would hurt your feelings and you already did that. If you are a man of little or no wisdom, you will listen to the men whose solution may be to end the relationship as you wanted or to "discipline" her by taking counter action. I have friends, women who would tell me off when i am seething in anger after a relationship not going well. One would spend a good chunk of the counseling session telling me off after hearing what happened as you did here. Then she would tell me what to do. When she realizes the other party was wrong, she also defends her friend (Kuria). That is why I loved hearing you talk to Ndunya and so I hope he takes the advise in stride. Kuria On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, pamela butalanyi <butalanyipk@yahoo.com> wrote: Love frustrations, to whom by whom?..come offffffff!. ndunya..you are the types of men who are still in the mmmmmbush???..enslaving women is when you call ..LOVE what then?..LOVE SATISFACTION?...if a human being (wo -man) expresses what they feel or see happening, so to you, it is,... love frustrations Ndunya?..you mean apart from you, other men are just but frustrations to women?..You know, some women fear speaking their mind because of intimidation by people like you [ no wonder you claimed no woman will want to leave you, even if you chase away - eh..hiyo..ni ile tunaita superiority complex]. But the fact that one does not speak, it does not mean that inside their minds, it is blank, robotic and they are all yes, yes,!....'' when you say get out of this forum -- and she says ..yes, yes.!,,,and that is love indeeeeeed according to your love thermometer?..hujakula jumvi nyingi baado I can see..you sound quite a young man who is very young kimawazo ..ati Pamela, Ndinda et al poisoning other women?..kwani  you assume women ni Kondoshe ama mbuzi za mikia, hazina akili?...Before you say anything to that effect, do your research first. You might be more frustrated in love than some of us...that is why you will want to restrict your girlfriend from socialising..with other good people by cheating her that they are lunatics and she repeats the same that, she had not known bado, kama this forum is for lunatics..so she is leaving the forum of lunatics!..eh!.. If you claim these forums are for lunatics - then I would like to know which other lunatic you claim among them, added me among the lunatics?..I am not one at all and I don't speak lunacy or lunatic tongues!...in other words, not everyone here is a lunatic..and lowlives as you want to portray it. to your girlfriend...majority are cultured and share information that is very educative...that is why we still hangon here..for the sake of those...otherwise if everyone was speaking about their manhood, their girlfriends,exes, hitting tittles (like you, Ndunya), husbands and wives and the frustrations involved if at all any, then there will be no reason some of us sticking here...we don't need to hear such...on such a forum.   In fact your Lily should be asking then, why would my man, the one I love and respect, be socialising with lunatics?.ambao he claims hawana muelekeo, the same ones he is restricting me from socialising with, is he a lunatic himself?. You should appologise to the forum for calling the members lunies!. So you can as well tell her brothers or sisters to leave this forum or you leave if at all they joined?. You want to portray this forum as a corrupt place for only silly people?.   You make me think that whoever you claim is girlfriend writting might not be at all... could be you yourself. ...and the fact that most people here don't parade their girlfriends, boyfriends or husbands or wives....to you it is a form of love frustrations and or they know not what love is?..emima emibi kabisaaaa Jecktone!. and BTW when you post things here, I thought you expect coments...you post such sensitive matters yet you seem to be imature in dealing with the outcome NDUNYA!...you should tell your girl that it is you, the author of lunacy here making others who care about you respond to lunacy, hence you label them lunies in the end...who else has posted things here bragging about their manhood?...,,and sleeping with the girlfriend, kwa sofa, [kwa pembe, kwa nyasi, kwa macho, kwa wapi]...apart from you?...mawazo gani haya wewe ndugu yangu...wachana na hayo kabisaaaaa!.   ...and I did not comment about you..btw...NDUNYA, It was KM I responded to and he explained like a gentleman - and we thought we burried there and then..ilikuwashia nini wewe as an individual tena? have you not heard of divorces and walk outs in marriages? or was I inventing something unheard of?...or you did not know the style women use?..then you go ahead and write to us a letter ati it is from your girlfriend appologising to her man for joining a forum of lunatics ( kwani yeye ni mtoto wako ama your girlfriend?..wife to be)....and then, trying to use that window of opportunity to lash at Pamela, Ndinda et al?....young man, let me advise you that, loving a woman is not trying to enslave her, and if you ever will need true love from a woman, never ever try to be BOSSY...that way, you will never find true meaningful, sincere love and respect....kama wazazi wetu, when we grow up, they respect us, and can not order us around like  brainless children..unless they are inviting rebeliousness, so will you, to adult women?...itakuwa dunia gani hiyo sasa?   ...some of us are beyond such petiness Ndunya - I therefore urge you to do your research babu eh..before you plant names and claim love frustrations to some fellows like us..when they are just trying to speak the truth where you, are, living unrealistically and in denial!....     Be blessed and don't boss women around eh... ... --- On Tue, 7/27/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote: From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 7:40 AM Ndunya, Please allow the ladies to give their opinion. Being combative will not nurture good debating environments. We cant have everybody agreeing with us. Both are referring to physical abuse directed at women and I am sure you dont condone it. You sound angry and this is not good for you. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Jectone Ndunya <jacknyaiga@yahoo.com> wrote: Pamela, Ndinda et-al This simply describes who you are and what you did when was in a silimar situation. Please do not intoxicate minds of the many hopwfull women who still are yet to identify and love their men. Take your love frustrations to the red sea. Jex --- On Mon, 7/26/10, yvette <yndinda@gmail.com> wrote: From: yvette <yndinda@gmail.com> Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... To: "MlalaHoi" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 11:19 PM Pamela, you are one brilliant woman, i wouldnt have said it better than this. i foresee men suffering in their old age because of mistakes of their youth. i know so many women who have let go and moved on a long time ago but are still staying in the marriages for the sake of children. On Jul 23, 6:46 pm, pamela butalanyi <butalany...@yahoo.com> wrote: > You know, when you tell a normal intelligent woman face to face, that 'take it or leave' after some confrontation about some sins, then you go away with a swagger, chest pushed out. When you come later, the time them chicken have come to roost and find her within going about the duty to nurture the babies and she is as quiet as water inside a pot, be fooled not that she is scared and she will not go, because her man has put his foot on the ground. I normally hear some men advise others, put your foot down and show that woman that you are a man!. Wrong advise indeed....wrong advise because, that woman, before marrying her, she was a full adult with her full fuculties and independent...only after settling as a wife, is she reminded that, er...traditionally, a woman is under a man...but to be precise, that is not the reality ya mambo...it only appears kidogoo to be so. We realise that it only appears to be so, when she can walk out of the >  relationship after it is ireconcilable, meaning she is quite as a separate entity as is her man, but respect and mutual understanding keeps them together. >   > Back to the topic of take or leave: >   > Actually what has taken shape, inside such a woman,  is that the anger generated by your take it or leave remarks at the time of need, makes her quiet. Quiet because she has actually left and no need to waste her precious energy on the gone case - thus one foot is outside another inside - the inside one strategising on when is the BEST time to call it quits. >   > When that time reaches (it could even be 5 years or more..by then she has a clear map of her future life), she will use any flimsy reason, even like, 'why are you quarelling the house maid - or kwanini unachokoza mtoto?''  in order to make a fool of you; when you answer again arrogangly,  then follows - ''I have to live'' . Then she walks out of that front door and through the gate with a swagger. Mambo finished. Then divorce follow. She moved on there and then, when you arrogantly said take it or leave!. Conversely,for those women who have no map about their future life, e.g those who rely fully on the husband to provide, they will hung on but, they also moved on ages ago, these ones wait at your old age; when they move to a separate bed and really keep you at arms length. That is the best punishment they have waited to do for long. By then the children are grown up, when you threaten that you will marry, it is not the woman to answer that, but the >  children, when they are protecting their inheritance. >   > When you say, 'take it or leave' and then walk away, is the worst thing to say and do to a woman who is furious and is seeking answers to what is taking shape. I believe it is the same even to men, if the wife gets that arrogant. >   > Wise men and women, who really care about each other and really care about the relatioship, really care about their future together and really want to age together, don't retort that, 'take it or leave'' when their partners are aggrieved. Instead, they sit them down, show remorse and appologise and if it is extremely bad behaviour, promise that, it will not happen again!...then forgiveness follow on condition that, truly there will be no repeat of the same. That is what we call wisdom... remember youthfulness is just but a stage...when we get old and the knees and knuckles are craking, when leaving bed with a swagger to go hunt becomes a nightmare, when we turn and find our sweeties still beside us, that is when we appreciate that very wisdom we displayed, that cemented us together as in till death do us part.... >   > Have an educative weekend folks... >   > Blessings. >   > > --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwa...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... > To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 6:14 AM > > Rose, Arasa na wengine, > The young man needs counseling not condemnation. He is scared to hell of the possibility of the lady > seeing him brag about his jolobo and enticing akina dada to his joloboland. He should have done what I do, > joke about these things in private with her and tell her you joke in public so that when you get caught, > you can remind her of that. > > Migosi Ndunya is either looking for cheap publicity or ana upuzi so dont ruin his day. He would not be payukering > about the woman if she was already on the forum. > > And yes he is right to some extent. Some women dont know how to handle nonsense. He writes tones of them and like yours > truly, a woman with a thin skin can give you hell. One I dated sometimes back when KOL was busy like hell got to read my satanic > verses and then became confrontational. She had known that is how I write my stuff but she started talking of "I thought you were just writing fictional stuff" and then she didnt want to see women publicly get emotionally attached due to the writings especially the braggadocio stuff. >   > I told her told her the same thing I told Mama Mwangi when she managed to get on these fora many years ago...Take it or leave. None of them wanted to leave but they eventually left for other reasons.  Mama Mwangi didnt like me write satanic verses on Mwangi. I had series on his stupidity which he actually loved hearing me talk about such the time when I left him in the living room and I went to pee. I found him peeing on my tea and then he was telling me, "Dad, I am making tea for you". Even that is not stupidity, I dont know what it is. Another time I was talking to a woman in Gikuyu and we were both of us in the house. It was a landline and he went to one of the lines. I then heard a kid on the other side saying, "Please stop talking to my dad. I dont have anybody to play with in the house because my mom is at work. Keep off". As if that was not enough, another day he took my cell phone and hid under the trash can, at the very bottom. I looked for it >  for almost an hour and then I realized he was not looking straight at me on the eyes. He was barely three then. I suspected him and went to look at the trash can. I got it. Then gave him a good beating. He cried for a while then came to me and told me, "Dad, I threw it away because you only to speak to other people and dont have time for me". I hugged him and cried real tears. From then on, I would seek his permission to talk on phone if we were alone in the house. Kids can teach us lessons. > > Now why am I talking about this stuff? To give support to the young man. Let him to tell her that she can take his nonsense or leave. > > Kuria > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:48 AM, arasa elisha <arasaeli...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Ndunya, > > Ushindwe kabisa! Kwani you thot that you will keep her out there and do all the shenzi type stuff in here and keep her out of it? Wacha kujilet down hivi. However the gal is, please get intouch with me I give you 411 about your man! Usiseme haukuambiwa! > > Elisha >   > ALWAYS YOUR FRIEND!!!  HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU WANT DONE UNTO YOU!!!!!!! > > From: Rose Kagwiria <ikirimakagwi...@yahoo.com> > To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com > Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:08:08 PM > > Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... > > Jex > i was thinking you are more mature than this. If you restrict her so much before marriage, what will happen after marriage. May be you will not allow her to greet even your neighbors or even apply powder on her face. > > From: "mauricejod...@yahoo.ca" <mauricejod...@yahoo.ca> > To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com > Cc: Young Professionals <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:08:19 PM > Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... > > What's her name? > > Courage > > Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > From: Jectone Ndunya <jacknya...@yahoo.com> > Sender: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT) > To: Mlalahoi<mlalahoi@googlegroups.com> > ReplyTo: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com > Cc: Young Professionals<youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com> > Subject: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING.... > > HELLO YOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! > > Who invited My girlfriend to these forums for Old people? Shame on you. > Am going on strike or am quit if she is no gonna leave immediately....! > > Jex > > -- > MANY JOB VACANCIES:http://bit.ly/bROydQ >   > TECHMTAA BLOG:http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >   > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >   > TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to+254 726 034 530begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +254 726 034 530      end_of_the_skype_highlighting > -- > MANY JOB VACANCIES:http://bit.ly/bROydQ >   > TECHMTAA BLOG:http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >   > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >   > TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to+254 726 034 530begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +254 726 034 530      end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > -- > MANY JOB VACANCIES:http://bit.ly/bROydQ >   > TECHMTAA BLOG:http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >   > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >   > TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to+254 726 034 530begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +254 726 034 530      end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > -- > MANY JOB VACANCIES:http://bit.ly/bROydQ >   > TECHMTAA BLOG:http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >   > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >   > TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to+254 726 034 530begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +254 726 034 530      end_of_the_skype_highlighting > > --http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.comhttp://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi > > -- > MANY JOB VACANCIES:http://bit.ly/bROydQ >   > TECHMTAA BLOG:http://bit.ly/cmRFZR >   > To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >   > TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to+254 726 034 530begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              +254 726 034 530      end_of_the_skype_highlighting -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530 -- http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi -- MANY JOB VACANCIES: http://bit.ly/bROydQ   TECHMTAA BLOG: http://bit.ly/cmRFZR   To unsubscribe from this group, Email mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com   TO ADVERTISE HERE PLEASE M-PESA KSH 1,000 for each advert or Ksh 5,000 for monthly subscription to +254 726 034 530

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