Thursday, July 15, 2010

Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible

Dear All,

Firstly, every peace loving individual Muslim or non Muslim should condemn this unfortunate situation and the any other acts of terrorism in the strongest possible terms. The actions in Kampala, Mogadisho, Nigeria etc, is uncalled for, unacceptable and are not within the teachings of Islam as ISLAM means peace and muslims worship the God of Noah, Moses, David and Jesus, peace be upon them all

Secondly, i would encourage those who are not Muslims and write about Islam and it's ideologies read and understand Islam better than writing falsehoods about Islam and creating seeds of discords among Allah's creations. Apparently, i read a lot of mischief and negative perceptions being spread in this otherwise, suppose to be healthy and interactive forum some people who have very little understanding and knowlegde about Islam and for various reasons. This kind of situation cannot promote a tolerant and cohesive society. We all know very well, the so called war on terror afte 911, apert from being a tool used to undermoine the dignity of muslims- has not made our world a safer place

The above teachings of Islam are contrary to some of the falsehoods below and instead stress on trustworthiness, fairness, kindness, respect etc and muslims should exhit so, indeed Islam requires us  not only to respect other members of the human race but also animals and the environment. It is unfortunate that due to actions of some individuals ( muslims, christains and jews a like) our world today has become unsafe and because we live in a society of different races/religions we need to bulid bridges of understading for a better future. These can be achieved through dialogue and positive egagements.

Abdinoor


From: abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: jacknyaiga@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 9:43:37 AM
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible



From: abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: jacknyaiga@yahoo.co
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 8:54:51 AM
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible

By the same breadth, how about calling the Christian community to come out and condemn and the acts of sodomy and defilement and sexual abuse committed by priests against children. I am sure you aware of the rising reports by this 'holy' men within the country and other parts of the world. The terrorism against committed to hundreds of victims too deserve strong condemnation from you and the Christian community.


Ahsante

Abu Ayman
From: Jectone Ndunya <jacknyaiga@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 10:05:07 AM
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible

I think the Muslim World should rise and restore order and governance in Somalia rather run away from it. If indeed you are your brothers keeper, you shouldn't wait to see lives shattered by the Bombs.

The Muslim world should also flush out Alshabaabs wherever they are and help bring them to face Justice. This should not be left to America and UK alone but should get the world over engaged towards restoring normalcy in that Country.

We should also stop accommodating their victims here in name of Refugees so that if they have to kill then let every one be killed but in their country.

Already our country is choking under the refugee menace, it is already inserting pressure on our Physical structures which should be enjoyed by Peace loving Kenyans.

I want to call on Muslim Community in Kenya to rise and condemn these acts and to help the Government in management of Insecurity especially emanating from Somali.

My piece.



Jex

--- On Tue, 7/13/10, Paul Konyango <daddiepaul2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Konyango <daddiepaul2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible
To: "Sham Faraj" <habubah2000@yahoo.co.uk>, mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 6:25 AM

Sham

First of all I am impressed by the way you are composed when expressing yourself and without getting sentimental. I won't deny that even people who have been brought up under christian doctrines and teachings do perform murder and other evils against fellow innocent humans. The other day a self confessed killer in the name of Phillip Onyancha was apprehended. His first name suggested that the guy isor must have been a christian a while ago. But I have never heard any christian praise the name of God after committing such deplorable acts.
NOT even a single time

Sham, I respect the fact that you dignify human life and have also respect to others people's religions and beliefs. But there are those Muslims who have enough balls to Praise Alah after killing. Remember Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein etc. The list is endless

I may not know Quran like you do but the little stories I have read from it; It promotes some queer acts like Slavery, discrimination towards women, Polygamy, wife battery etc. If you can be patient with me my brother, I can unveil all these lines.
In the Bible on the other hand; the scripture is directly against those acts. Jesus himself stated that whoever marries a second woman commits adultery. His main teaching was about love, peace and forgiveness. 

Sham I am not at all against Islam and Muslims for that matter; In fact I have a couple of Muslim friends who are very close to me. I am simply flabbergasted by the way people professing the Islam faith dare praise Allah when such disturbing images are hitting headlines!

I respect you  brother, but truth be told

Konyi

From: Sham Faraj <habubah2000@yahoo.co.uk>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: daddiepaul2001@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 4:02:28 PM
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible

Konyango,

What does Islam have to do with the bombing??? The ones who claimed responsibility are ALSHABAB  not MUSLIMS in general...!!!
We are all condemning what Al-Shabad did, infact it's cowardly, it's not Islamic at all.
The killings of innocent children, mothers n fathers in a church during the 2007 clashes, would it be justified if a muslim said that CHRISITIANS are barbaric???
NO! And you never heard any muslim say that nor even think that either, except that we all were horrified to see that our fellow kenyans doing such a horrific thing to their own!

There are Irish bombers killing people, there people who kill children in schools at broad day light, and they are christians brought up in a chrisitian family infact,  bt it is never mentioned that a chrisitian man or boy terrorised or killed people no, neither is chrisitianity mentioned either.
So why when a muslim man/boy/woman does something you have to drag the Islam religion??
What do u know about Islam and its teachings that you, a devoted chrisitian (as u call urself) can come out and say that Islam is a hostile religion??
Kanyago, have you ever read anything from a muslim here in this forum talking against chrisitianity, the way you and some other brothers here do in regards to Islam and muslims?? I haven't.  And do you know why? It's because Islam teaches us to respect other people's religion, and Allah said this in the quran:

"In the name of Allah, most Gracious most Merciful.
109.01 Say: O ye who rejects faith!
109.02 I worship not that ye worship,
109.03 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
109.04 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
109.05 Nor will you worship that which I worship.
109.06 To you be your Way, and to me mine"

So Konyango please leave Islam to the muslims, who are a peace loving people too, and who DO NOT support the killings of innocent people regardless of their religion.

Thank you and have a good day.

Sham Faraj





 

 

YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY... DON'T LET CRITICISM WORRY YOU...

 



--- On Tue, 13/7/10, Paul Konyango <daddiepaul2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Konyango <daddiepaul2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com, Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com, mkhaguli@yahoo.com
Cc: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com, abuayman88@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, 13 July, 2010, 9:32

Abu & Faizah

I hope by now the two of you clearly know what am talking about. Even from the way you are conversing to each other and yet claim to be of the same religion (Islam) clearly there is that aspect of rage in your speech. Thats why am fully convinced that Islam is a hostile religion. When you attack a Christian, and especially a devoted one for that matter, you will realize how fast he/she will be to request for peace or totally back off. But after reading your postings clearly if you were to meet you might end up tearing each other apart.

People nothing meaningful / constructive can ever be achieved where tempers are flaring and where there's so much suspicion etc.
Let peace and love dominate and let the truth be said; Islam is a hostile religion. FYI, Alshabaab claimed responsibility of the two bombings in UG

have a PEACEFUL day
Konyi

From: Faiza Hassan <antihongo@gmail.com>
To: Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com; mkhaguli@yahoo.com; mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 11:05:20 PM
Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible

Abu Ayman. I posted a rejoinder but it seem moderator is being unfair.
If he allowed your posting he should have let mine also. Why did you
bring this issue to this forum? I thought issue of Wahhabism was
banned in this forum. You are aware as recepient of a defamatory e
mail circulated by a person known to you. I am requesting you to
furnish me with the true identity and contact of the person so that I
can take necessary action. I have a right to a good reputation as a
woman, though woman according to your sect of wahhabism not Islam is
useless. Mind you I did not level baseless allegation against anyone.
If I did why you did not defend them in mlalahoi? Are you sure I said
Hassan Jabry aka hambarr and Twaha wamehusika?

On 7/12/10, abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Maurice
>
> I thought you were a sober minded person, i am sorry i did not know there
> are
> people on these forum who haveempty brains (forgive me for this
> description).
> Someone is levelling baseless accusation against members of this forum in
> another forum and you are coming in to defend her. Are also saying that the
> two
> mentioned individuals hambarr and Twaha walihusika, if you two have
> evidencewhy
> dont u just present to the police. This issue is not to do with wahabi, it
> is to
> do with upholding dignity and respect to others. I will come out and defend
> you
> vigorously if i believe that you are wrongly accused and that's is  what i
> did
> for the two brothers. I know  accusation by Faiza are stemming out of
> personal
> vendetta against one of the members who exposed her or his weird attitudes.
> If you feel u dont have anything important to do dont do it here!! Next time
> watch yr words  carefully and put something in yr brain!!!
> Mind you this forum is not about levelling false accusations, if u believe
> in
> this  find another forum which subscribes to such crap behaviours.
>
> Abu Ayman
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com>
> To: Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 8:37:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kiswahili] Fw: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course
> responsible
>
>
> Abu,
> Don't feed people here na maovu yako.Kama una uhabi au wahusika,jitenge na
> kujumlisha Faiza na fitina za chuki zako.Nduru za nini! what are you hiding?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo. com>
> To: kiswahili@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 9:48:37 AM
> Subject: [Kiswahili] Fw: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course
> responsible
>
>
>
>
> THIS IS FAIZA,  accusing members of this forum of complicity in the attacks
> in
> UG!!! may Allah guide her (or him).
>
> Abu Ayman
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Faiza Hassan <antihongo@gmail. com>
> To: mlalahoi@googlegrou ps.com
> Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 2:36:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Two Bomb Attacks in Uganda, Muslims of course responsible
>
> No, No those are not Muslims. They are Wahhabis. These are real
> extremists. Muslims are peace loving people. They don't carry out
> suicide bombing. Alqaida, Alshabab and Talibans are Wahhabis. The like
> of hambarr, Twalib and others.
>
> On 7/12/10, Paul Konyango <daddiepaul2001@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Lovely people;
>>
>> Two simultaneous attacks in Uganda just killed innocent people (64) in
>> number.
>> Now a stupid 'sheikh' in Somalia is happy with it saying they deserved it.
>> Honestly the so called zealous peace loving Muslims should really open
>> their
>> eyes and see the fruits their religion is yielding. The Bible says that
>> you
>> will
>> know them by their fruits and that is what is happening. I'm really
>> offended
>> by
>> this act and hope that immediate action will be taken against the Alshabab
>> militia group in Somalia since they have not denied responsibility of the
>> attacks. I just had to voice this out as its a cowardly act. This Islam
>> religion
>> should be outlawed in the world since its such a hostile religion.
>> Christianity
>> preaches peace and love. In  fact Jesus said that we should love our
>> enemies
>> and
>> EVEN PRAY FOR THEM
>> Pole to our brothers in Uganda
>>
>> Konyi
>>
>>
>>
>>
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