When they invited African leaders to China some two years ago, they promised big rewards to these leaders in form of business unlike the west which brings aid in the form of NGOs. Most of these African leaders were asked to setup proxy companies in China where the Chinese government would have some equity.
This was the easiest way for our good leaders to convince us that we have a new development partner going to build our roads, rail, oil rigs, bridges etc and most of us in Africa are convinced that the Chinese have invested much yet it is basically companies owned by our own African leaders hiding behind a Chinese government company. Have you ever seen any private Chinese company being awarded a single project if not CCCC and CRBC?
Can't you ask yourself why we have never heard of a tender announcement whenever it is the Chinese govt financing any project? Have you ever seen any equipment being shipped from China to construct a road, bridge?Travel around Africa today and you will definitely find that it is the Chinese running the show in construction and you will understand why all our leaders were called to China, which was basically to setup proxy companies that would benefit them only and the Chinese government.
Most African leaders now speak with one voice when it comes to Chinese matters as opposed to the west, why this change of heart?
The only difference with West is that the Chinese system of corruption yields results. The West has used AID and NGOs to achieve their own interests and the Chinese have used this a bargaining position to their advantage because they knew that Most African leaders are corrupt and it will be easier to bring them on the corruption table with the idea of forming proxy companies that would look like Chinese. This relationship is working while the West is now irrelevant. Most of our leaders will make sure they continue clinging on to power until they die because of such jumbo deals that makes easy cash for their friends and families.
The only difference with West is that the Chinese system of corruption yields results. The West has used AID and NGOs to achieve their own interests and the Chinese have used this a bargaining position to their advantage because they knew that Most African leaders are corrupt and it will be easier to bring them on the corruption table with the idea of forming proxy companies that would look like Chinese. This relationship is working while the West is now irrelevant. Most of our leaders will make sure they continue clinging on to power until they die because of such jumbo deals that makes easy cash for their friends and families.
So don't get conned by those companies on Alibaba and think the Chinese govt or our own government will help, just be careful.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Eric Wabwaya Mburi <ewabwaya@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa
Sell to them some dogs Papa as Muita sugested cos for that they wil pay since it's a delicacy to them
Ja'kamburi
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:19:05 +0300
Subject: Re: China's investment in Kenya
From: papalikondi@googlemail.com
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
They are very bad people, even if you register with their Alibaba nothing will be done to them. The worst scenario is when I went to their Embassy here in Kenya and a Mr. Yao had the courtesy of telling me that they never interfere in Private dealings of companies, then he gave me a long list of arbitration firms in China. But we were lucky we managed to block the account of that dog eating @!#$@$%%^^ and he has promised to refund the money. But now the problem is the @!#$%%^^^ wants us to give instructions to his Bank to reverse our instructions but we want him to send the Bill of Lading and refund the whole amount before we reverse our instructions. Now the @#$%@#$% is crying for our help since he got no money to his employees and his suppliers.Bureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Kaaaabisssssaaaaaaaaaaa hawa watu. Mbwa ya maviOn Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Eric Wabwaya Mburi <ewabwaya@hotmail.com> wrote:
Poloe Papa but that's quiet argonizing.I can imagine what you going through.I am sorry for this my brother
Ja'kamburi
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:31:30 +0300
Subject: Re: China's investment in Kenya
From: papalikondi@googlemail.com
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
ErickThey send me two quotations on a proforma invoice and they all looked the same. They send a sample from firm X which we rejected and approved the one from firm Y. Now the sales woman in firm X moved to firm Y and followed up the order. The firms all started with a similar name but firm X had the word company at the end while Y had only the word limited at the end.Terms of payment were 50% advance payment and 50% on shipment. Note that both proforma Invoices had the same amount of 0.599USD per itemWe paid the advance 50% as per the contract with firm Y, but when we went to pay the final 50% we confused and paid firm X. Getting that money from that son of Bruce Lee is hell. He claims the order was to be his and cant refund the money and will produce the items yet firm Y has already shipped the goods and they are lying at the port of Mombasa.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Wabwaya Mburi <ewabwaya@hotmail.com> wrote:
Papa,
What did these snake eating guys do to you man to warrant such a big compalint ama waliponyoka na Mama Likondi?
heheheheh
Have a china free trade
Ja'kamburi
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:16:12 +0300
Subject: Re: China's investment in Kenya
From: papalikondi@googlemail.com
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
I have had nasty experience with Chinese firms. They are conmen and sincerely I would never recommend a chinese firm to anybody
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Judy Willetts <Willettsjudy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Friends,I have been asked to present a talk on Chinese investment in Kenya. I would appreciate some contributions on your experiences with Chinese firms in Kenya. I was in Kenya shortly in December 2009 for my father's funeral but I was impressed by some of the development taking place there.Do you think Chinese firms are contributing positively to Kenya's development? Is their technology appropriate for Kenya's development? What do you thing about Chinese imports to Kenya? Are they offering health competition to Kenyan firms. Are their activities ethical/ corrupt?How do Chinese investments compare to Indians or other foreign investments in Kenya?Regards,Judy----- Original Message -----From: Sharon WanyekiTo: Evans MACHERASent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:58 AMSubject: Re: Fw: Re: Reunion on 27th Augits in westlands right opposite the westlands bus park but the entrance is opposite sarit centre/safaricom care centre
Sharon Wanyeki
+254721/0733-246390
On 26 August 2010 12:56, Evans MACHERA <evansmachera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Sharon,Where is Pizza Garden!Thanks.Evans
From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Reunion on 27th Aug
To: "Sharon Wanyeki" <sharon.wanyeki@gmail.com>
Cc: ">" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>, "bidiiafricaint" <bidiiafricaINT@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 2:51 AM
GuysIt will be Pizza Garden not The Hood
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Sharon Wanyeki <sharon.wanyeki@gmail.com> wrote:
HI Y'allThe venue has changed to Pizza Garden from 2pm. Apologies for the inconvenience. Hope to c u thea.Rgds
Sharon Wanyeki
+254721/0733-246390
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