Friday, July 23, 2010

Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....

Pam,
Another reason why Kikuyu men use "njoki and "wairimu" as surname would be a case where the father sired and left. In that case, you either get your grandpa's name or uncle's name. Most opt to take their mother's name and so Kuria wa Gathoni or wanjiru the marathoner.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:01 PM, pamela butalanyi <butalanyipk@yahoo.com> wrote:
Aaha....falagasa (parakacha!). Understood your explanation wa Wairimu- I like the uniqueness that reminds me of my student - he used to call himself wa Njoki, when I asked him, why do you call yourself wa Njoki, he retorted, ''it is my mother'' - then quickly asked me, ''why do you call yourself by your father's name?''...then he told me that his father was the most useless father on earth, he mistreated the mother by having mistresses and ignoring his children, that is why he decided to call himself by his mother's name - I just laughed and we continued looking at his research proposal. 
 
In fact, KM wa Wairimu, research has it that, gentlemen who are vocal, telling their counterparts on how to treat women with chest thumbing,...are only doing comedy, they are the exact opposite, very kind to their wives. Wanawasha kwa wenzao moto, na kwao kulizimwa enzi gani.
 
It reminds me of one bragging gentleman, who used to work in one of our big industries in Kenya.
This gentleman's wife lived in rurals, he visited frequently. Where he worked, had another woman, lets call her the town woman. This other woman learned of a wife to this man who lives in rural...she confronted him and he assured her that he was the man and his wife has no say in matters matrimonial in fact he told the town woman she will be his second wife.
 
The town woman got very comfortable at that assurance. In fact he could brag to his colleagues how he has silenced the wife and when he even just coughs, she goes to him running. One bad day, the rural woman comes unannounced, the bragging man coils and when the rural woman starts beating the town woman, to his colleagues and to the town woman's bewilderment, the man joins the wife in beating the town woman saying, ' eh lets beat her and chase her!''...together with the wife, waka chapa yule mpaka wakamrarua nguo...if you asked the man why he was beating this other woman...vituko na visanga kweli.....
 
......end story......


--- On Fri, 7/23/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 9:33 AM


Dear Pamela,
I am in agreement with you although I think you misunderstood my take it or leave. No, I am opposed to such chest
thumping and even my enemies such as Muita will tell you that when it comes to women, my heart falagasa (whatever that means) but not only the heart does the wombling but the knees. I will be the last person to advise my good friend Ndunya
to stomp and do what Kenyatta told Kenyans do whenever a mzungu appeared to show them that they are also macho and
strong..Kifua mbele, matako nyuma. That is not Kuria wa Wairimu.

I meant she takes what Ndunya writes and receives, plus satanic verses from yours truly and other satan inspired writers or leave the forum. I would surely tell mine the same if she was in these fora. I let even the candidate for the office of step mother of junior know that I am very gifted in writing nonsense and yes, Ndunya is right that these fora are Lunatic express trains. Some of the stuff written here cannot even be uttered in Karumaindo Bar and Restaurant and yet we claim to be a God fearing Nation.

Believe me, I would get extremely scared if my sweetheart was tricked by an enemy to join these fora. But unlike Ndunya, I would tell her, take it or leave it....I will continue writing the way I do but warn her that some stuff can also hurt her feelings especially my revelations which I think are good for revealing to a priest or to members of a church and not meant for sweethearts to hear. I doubt we reveal worse things than those who claim to have been witches, thieves and murderers and give testimonies in church. Why condemn Ndunya for the revelations and leave those saved souls who confess worse crimes? If he confessed in church, would she still leave him? If yes, then she can take the next flight to wherever she came from otherwise leaving because of her or stopping our revelation because of a loved one is the surest way of breeding dictators. She can leave and marry a deaf person who is mute and so incapable of talking about his past. I would get worried if the revelations are about crimes to be committed as opposed to crimes already committed. Even those who stole millions through Goldenberg and Anglo Leasing are still serving us and some of them want to be presidents in future. Kwani what is worse, Ndunya talking about his jolobo or stealing millions and then running for the presidency?

Kuria

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:46 AM, pamela butalanyi <butalanyipk@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know, when you tell a normal intelligent woman face to face, that 'take it or leave' after some confrontation about some sins, then you go away with a swagger, chest pushed out. When you come later, the time them chicken have come to roost and find her within going about the duty to nurture the babies and she is as quiet as water inside a pot, be fooled not that she is scared and she will not go, because her man has put his foot on the ground. I normally hear some men advise others, put your foot down and show that woman that you are a man!. Wrong advise indeed....wrong advise because, that woman, before marrying her, she was a full adult with her full fuculties and independent...only after settling as a wife, is she reminded that, er...traditionally, a woman is under a man...but to be precise, that is not the reality ya mambo...it only appears kidogoo to be so. We realise that it only appears to be so, when she can walk out of the relationship after it is ireconcilable, meaning she is quite as a separate entity as is her man, but respect and mutual understanding keeps them together.
 
Back to the topic of take or leave:
 
Actually what has taken shape, inside such a woman,  is that the anger generated by your take it or leave remarks at the time of need, makes her quiet. Quiet because she has actually left and no need to waste her precious energy on the gone case - thus one foot is outside another inside - the inside one strategising on when is the BEST time to call it quits.
 
When that time reaches (it could even be 5 years or more..by then she has a clear map of her future life), she will use any flimsy reason, even like, 'why are you quarelling the house maid - or kwanini unachokoza mtoto?''  in order to make a fool of you; when you answer again arrogangly,  then follows - ''I have to live'' . Then she walks out of that front door and through the gate with a swagger. Mambo finished. Then divorce follow. She moved on there and then, when you arrogantly said take it or leave!. Conversely,for those women who have no map about their future life, e.g those who rely fully on the husband to provide, they will hung on but, they also moved on ages ago, these ones wait at your old age; when they move to a separate bed and really keep you at arms length. That is the best punishment they have waited to do for long. By then the children are grown up, when you threaten that you will marry, it is not the woman to answer that, but the children, when they are protecting their inheritance.
 
When you say, 'take it or leave' and then walk away, is the worst thing to say and do to a woman who is furious and is seeking answers to what is taking shape. I believe it is the same even to men, if the wife gets that arrogant.
 
Wise men and women, who really care about each other and really care about the relatioship, really care about their future together and really want to age together, don't retort that, 'take it or leave'' when their partners are aggrieved. Instead, they sit them down, show remorse and appologise and if it is extremely bad behaviour, promise that, it will not happen again!...then forgiveness follow on condition that, truly there will be no repeat of the same. That is what we call wisdom... remember youthfulness is just but a stage...when we get old and the knees and knuckles are craking, when leaving bed with a swagger to go hunt becomes a nightmare, when we turn and find our sweeties still beside us, that is when we appreciate that very wisdom we displayed, that cemented us together as in till death do us part....
 
Have an educative weekend folks...
 
Blessings.
 

--- On Fri, 7/23/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 6:14 AM


Rose, Arasa na wengine,
The young man needs counseling not condemnation. He is scared to hell of the possibility of the lady
seeing him brag about his jolobo and enticing akina dada to his joloboland. He should have done what I do,
joke about these things in private with her and tell her you joke in public so that when you get caught,
you can remind her of that.

Migosi Ndunya is either looking for cheap publicity or ana upuzi so dont ruin his day. He would not be payukering
about the woman if she was already on the forum.

And yes he is right to some extent. Some women dont know how to handle nonsense. He writes tones of them and like yours
truly, a woman with a thin skin can give you hell. One I dated sometimes back when KOL was busy like hell got to read my satanic
verses and then became confrontational. She had known that is how I write my stuff but she started talking of "I thought you were just writing fictional stuff" and then she didnt want to see women publicly get emotionally attached due to the writings especially the braggadocio stuff.
 
I told her told her the same thing I told Mama Mwangi when she managed to get on these fora many years ago...Take it or leave. None of them wanted to leave but they eventually left for other reasons.  Mama Mwangi didnt like me write satanic verses on Mwangi. I had series on his stupidity which he actually loved hearing me talk about such the time when I left him in the living room and I went to pee. I found him peeing on my tea and then he was telling me, "Dad, I am making tea for you". Even that is not stupidity, I dont know what it is. Another time I was talking to a woman in Gikuyu and we were both of us in the house. It was a landline and he went to one of the lines. I then heard a kid on the other side saying, "Please stop talking to my dad. I dont have anybody to play with in the house because my mom is at work. Keep off". As if that was not enough, another day he took my cell phone and hid under the trash can, at the very bottom. I looked for it for almost an hour and then I realized he was not looking straight at me on the eyes. He was barely three then. I suspected him and went to look at the trash can. I got it. Then gave him a good beating. He cried for a while then came to me and told me, "Dad, I threw it away because you only to speak to other people and dont have time for me". I hugged him and cried real tears. From then on, I would seek his permission to talk on phone if we were alone in the house. Kids can teach us lessons.

Now why am I talking about this stuff? To give support to the young man. Let him to tell her that she can take his nonsense or leave.

Kuria

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:48 AM, arasa elisha <arasaelisha@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ndunya,

Ushindwe kabisa! Kwani you thot that you will keep her out there and do all the shenzi type stuff in here and keep her out of it? Wacha kujilet down hivi. However the gal is, please get intouch with me I give you 411 about your man! Usiseme haukuambiwa!

Elisha
 
ALWAYS YOUR FRIEND!!!  HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU WANT DONE UNTO YOU!!!!!!!


From: Rose Kagwiria <ikirimakagwiria@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 2:08:08 PM

Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....

Jex
i was thinking you are more mature than this. If you restrict her so much before marriage, what will happen after marriage. May be you will not allow her to greet even your neighbors or even apply powder on her face.

From: "mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca" <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: Young Professionals <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 1:08:19 PM
Subject: Re: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....

What's her name?

Courage
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From: Jectone Ndunya <jacknyaiga@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SINCE MY CHICK HAS JOINED THESE FORUMS AM QUITTING....

HELLO YOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Who invited My girlfriend to these forums for Old people? Shame on you.
Am going on strike or am quit if she is no gonna leave immediately....!



Jex

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