Wednesday, July 28, 2010

Re: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth' - A Grand Question!

Wuod Sungu

I am not being synical. But I did earlier mention that I can recall some schools were called Harambee Secondary Schools, and I think any sober mind can still remember why they were called those names and who were the students. We have the same here, I am tended to be sacastic because of  insincere contributions that are peddled here. I dont know why some people would think that this constitutional making debate is like either going to Gikomba and scrambling for opened bails or we are seriously discussing a very important document. Whether one is in NO or Yes camp, the document is for all us both parties of the divide as Kenyans not as professional goons.

Suddenly still, some body claimed here about studying Law and I wonder where that came from. The constitution making for a transition is not meant for those who studied law and there is no close in that document where it is stated that "Ihis document is better understood by those who studied law for 7 years and above''

Anyway, every chiro there is at a corner somebody people do not want to associate with. Even our brothers and sisters in the No camp, have very sharp brains too and I appreciate them because them and me this is the only country we have no any other. But not these little junky types who seem to be suffering from physcological disorder when debating. I am sorry to be this way which is not my intention. But it hurts me to see people either in YES, or NO team presurposes very abnoxious sentiments. I wish one could have had the opportunity to serve under the present constitution during Moi's tenure. Mweheshimiwa Mzee Kibaki has given us enough breathing space wewe.

Ni lazima tujadiliane vizuri kama wakenya katika kila jambo ijapokua kuna Guru katikati yetu. Brother Reuben Kigame anaweza kutafakari hayo mambo katika mwelekeo ya maono ya Mungu.

We must change our attutude. Lazima tubadilishe mwongozo wetu kwa fikira.

Jakasrime Kosoko
N'Djamena
Chad


From: otieno sungu <sunoti@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com; Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>; "AWaweru@broker.co.ke" <AWaweru@broker.co.ke>
Cc: "mlalahoi@googlegroups.com" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 28 July, 2010 9:23:20
Subject: Re: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth' - A Grand Question!

So Dada Lyn,
 
The PSC and CoE that went round are from Uganda and they went to Tanzania to collect views, wrote them in Togo and came to Kenya to give us to enact and adopt?


From: Lynnet Mwakha <lmwakha@usiu.ac.ke>
To: Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>; "AWaweru@broker.co.ke" <AWaweru@broker.co.ke>
Cc: "mlalahoi@googlegroups.com" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 8:48:15 AM
Subject: RE: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth' - A Grand Question!

Eeeem…. Someone asked me this the other day:  Why should a sovereign nation (set to its wananchi) to casually ADAPT, ENACT and give to itself and its future generation rules they never participated in their making?

 

… In the middle of a week!

 

Isn't this not to kujifunga na kuwafunga?

 

  

Amazing Kenyans!

 

From: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Ogaro
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:37 PM
To: mlalahoi mlalahoi
Subject: RE: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth'

 


 Thanks Anne. You have put it well.
 
Njoya and Gitari have studied Theology just like someone else has studied Biology. The calling may have left them as tehy could be empty shells.


From: AWaweru@broker.co.ke
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:55:46 +0300
Subject: RE: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth'

Guys, please go to google and search for material on "revelations of Hell and Heaven"

 

I sympathise with Njoya and Gitari after this Life!!

 

Any Christian who would agree to share a podium with the two would be reducing him/herself to a very low level!

 

Reuben , never dare.

 

From: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Kigame
Sent: 27 July 2010 00:25
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth'

 

Ruth,

 

With the right rules for debating in place, I would actually be interested in an issue-based debate with them.

 

Reuben Kigame.

 

 

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From: Ruth Onyango

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:49 PM

Subject: Re: Gitari, Njoya invite 'No' clerics to debate on 'truth'

 

Sungu,

 

such a contest is ungodly and will only work to divide the church. Lets us not get freinzied about KATIBA. We better now think about its implementation, the obstacle and challenges ahead.

 

Passing the KATIBA is just by a vote, but the implementation is a process. AM 4 YES but you want to be enlightened how the counties will function and the source of their funding. Could it be Levies, Permits.....etc etc on top of current taxes.

 

Ruth

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:38 AM, otieno sungu <sunoti@yahoo.com> wrote:

The truth shall set us free, which clergy will take on these two, where is Mark Mariuki, Margaret Wanjiru, Pius Muiru, Lai,Cannon Peter Karanja etc, isn't this a great opportunity to establish the truth of the word of God??

 

It is now almost three days since this challenge was given and none is coming out.Real men of God never shy away from a challenge which is to show the glory of God, remember Moses and his walking stick which turned into snake and swallowed the ones of the false prophets? Even Elijah and the prophets of Baal.

 

Jesus too never shied away from the challenges of the Pharisees and Sedducees, let us know where the truth lies and who are the true men of God in these debates.

 

 

THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!!!! Let us hear it on a debate from none other than the men of God, not politicians, and those who will try justifying their cowerdice, we tell you upfront that God's servants never shy away from speaking on His side, even if the risk is to be thrown into a den of lions like Shardack, Meshack and Abednego!!!!!

 

We are waiting wit bated breath because we want to know where the truth really is!!!!!

 

Otieno Sungu

 

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