Thursday, September 2, 2010

Re: El Bashir(Peace For Who) - AU,The West,Our Region or The International Community!


Machera,
Koffi Annan was not in the office win 1994. He came much much later. The head of UN then must have been the person who succeeded Butros Butros Ghali, the Egyptian.
 
All the same there are some Leaders in Europe who played a big role in this Genocide. Habyarimanas Plane was not shot down by Tutsis. It was to be used as a pretext for Rwanda to go on this massacre. Lots of information is available out there. But all points to how African Leaders are so dumb to hoodwinked into massacring their own people for exchange of some little token.
 
The Daifur story is even more Complicated. the Stupid Bashir was hoodwinked into that Kumaliza watu wake. But now he will eventually pay, just in the same manner that Saddam also paid
Have a kuchanuka day.
 
Jagem

 

From: Evans MACHERA <evansmachera@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 2:36:45 AM
Subject: Re: El Bashir(Peace For Who) - AU,The West,Our Region or The International Community!


My dear kenyans,
 
Let us get it right - Whether the coalition government or the PNU wing solely made the decision to invite Bashir,it was wrong owing to the nature of allegations against the Sudanes president that are to do with Genocide and crimes against humanity.
 
You dont eat peace,but needs peace to eat - here,you will work for your needs.
 
Fingers have pointed to Kofi Annan and the Security council on the Rwanda war - that they kept quite as the Hutus and Tusis went on each others throats.
 
The African Union is talking on Hague from the African angle versus the West.
 
Surely,are these the reasons for watching crimes bruise in our continent!What is it then to be in the international community!
 
Kenya hosts a number of international headquaters or chapters and is quite strategic in terms of infrastructure ( Jomo Kenyatta International Airport) to network in and around theregion.That puts us in the frontline in matters to do with the International Community.
 
What happened after the 2007 presidential results! Didnt we engage slaughtering one another that uncle Sam had to step in!
 
Why can we have our house in order and do away with international instruments that bind us to the International Law!
 
Does Kenya and Africa subscribe to whether International law is true law!
 
We are a unipolar,a world village given the advancement of technology with what goes there along.Chaos somewhere affects other regions in equal measure.
 
The War in Iraq affected us heavily in terms of energy,shifted Americas attention to the far east,And China found the opportunity to penetrate to Africa.
 
When our centre could not hold during the violence,Ugandans who were not in a elections were in problems that they could not control.Trucks and trains could not deliver goods,hence starvation.
 
So who needs peace! ODM,PNU,AU,THE WEST,OUR REGION,THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY!
 
Where am i here!
 
It was wrong to have invited Bashir,it could be worse to have ordered for the arrest of an invited guest.We are all responsible,our party has been overshadowed by the Bashir Imbrioglo. 
 
Evans MACHERA.
 

--- On Wed, 9/1/10, Nankhi <nankhi@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nankhi <nankhi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: El Bashir.
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Maurice Oduor" <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:55 PM


Maurice,
Amolo had the option of shaking or not shaking Bashir's hand, he picked his option, Ochwangi or no Ochwangi but as a matter of principle and nothing else. And again I find it ungentleman-like to go on national TV and claim to us that he didnt know about Bashir's invitation....talking about washing dirty linen in public! I say this because this is the same man who has gone on the same national TV to tell Kenyans that him and the president have a 'perfect' working relationship, so how can he again convince me that he was left out of this little detail?? 

As it is, he is just as guilty as Kibaki and Wetangula, he was part of the plot! If he didnt, he had many ways of 'letting' this out and others would have stopped Bashir for him and many other Kenyans who do not approve of this man walking on our soil like he has done nothing wrong! 

At the promulgation my joke on FB was the many should have been given a grenade instead of a dove and even after he was give a dove, he suffocated it coz I noticed that one of the doves couldnt fly!!


The fact of the matter is that if Amolo was left out of this matter, my question would be why comment on it? Try the silence is golden rule.........but at this stage, for an ordinary person like me, he doesnt come out of this smelling like a rose, his denial of the invitation just makes him look bad...........period!!
 


 
 



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From: "mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca" <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com; lonyango@gerties.org
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 1:41:16 AM
Subject: Re: El Bashir.

Inviting Omar Bashir to this event was a slap in the face to Kenyans and I say shame on Kibaki and Wetang'ula who masterminded this. Just as Kenyans were celebrating the beginning of the end of the era of impunity, someone comes along and commits an impunity sacriledge, a real insult to Kenyans.

Watching Amolo shake hands with this despot was very painful because he was put in a situation of damned-if-you-do and damned-if-you-don't. If he had refused people like Ochwangi would be all over him complaining about breach of protocol and calling him a perpetual activist.

I need to hear Ochwangi's voice on this.

Courage,
Maurice
Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network

From: "Paul Nyandoto" <paul.nyandoto@phsotey.fi>
Sender: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:57:31 +0300
To: <lonyango@gerties.org>; <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: El Bashir.

Guys,

Whether Bush and Blair attacked Iraq or not. Bashir have killed a lot of Blacks just in the name that they are Africans who need independence from arabs who Bashir do claim to be. So if you are  black or an African please try to think by your skin if you can not think by your brain anymore. Take a trip to Darfur, just look how many blacks have lost their lives fighting to gain independence from the nothern sudan who sometimes call them monkeys. Guys let us use the knowledge we gained from school to know what is right and what is wrong. Now blacks are rushing for scholarships to USA, or for Jobs there infact Kenyans are even rushing to South Africa to look for jobs. DO YOU KNOW WHY?. BECAUSE SOMEBODY LIKE MANDELA; MARTIN LURTHER KING JUNIOR STOOD UP TO TELL WHITES THAT DISCRIMINATING BLACKS IS BAD. SO if any humanbeing who has not waken up please go live with goats. Some in this forum are trying to tell us that Dedan Kimathi died for nothing. Guys without those people you will be still serving whites even in Kenya today. Do not forget that according to whites grading. White were higher then a little lower  came Asians  then African (blacks) were in the level with monkeys. So who ever is supporting Bashir`s invitation is just a fool who does not know what he is saying unless he shares the same mentality of blacks being inferior with Bashir. What a shame?????? BUREEEE.

Paul Nyandoto

>>> "Lillian Onyango" 08/30/10 3:59 PM >>>

Please concentrate in your productivity and leave the rest to politicians thus the only way they earn their living.

 

From: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com [mailto:mlalahoi@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dere South
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:18 AM
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Cc: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: El Bashir.

 

Before you criticize the Govt for not arresting Bashir,please think about the following

-How does the arrest of Bashir help Sudan,especially now that there is a referendum in the Offing?
-Bashir is not the Only known murderer president on earth,others are the Bush family,M7,Kagame,and others affiliated to the American Govt,how come the only people who are tagged with an ICC Warrant of arrest are people who do not conform to the american dictatorship?Bush and Blair openly attacked Iraq completely ignoring the UN recommendation against such an attack in 2003 and still they have not been issued with warrants of arrest.Where were the WMDs they claimed were there?Why now are they harrasing Iran.
-

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:52 PM, martin onzere <martinonzere@gmail.com> wrote:

Think this statement from the AU makes alot of sense.
Read the attached .

 

On 29 August 2010 11:58, UoN Nairobi <sojmap2007@gmail.com> wrote:now the

To begin with, Kikwete was not at the function, Bashir is not Mohamed but Omar. It is unfortunate that most Kenyans see thigs from a Western perspective to become the potential "western parrots". As intellectuals we have to analyse the Darfur case carefully and avoid falling into the quagmire. I certainly know that many of you will be furious but, let's get our facts right. The was between Bashir and the West is due to Oil. The Sudan oil was discovered by an American company and due to their exploitation tendecies Bashir gave the tender to a Chinese firm. As intellectuals, i ask guys to make thei own conclusions. Do we remember saddam we were told he has WMD - Weapons of Mass Destruction, but until he was nyogwaed by the Americans te WMD had not been discovered.

 

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:23 PM, <alkagsus@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Sudan leader was in Kenya today - one of the dignitaries to witness the promulgation of the new constitution. Meanwhile, Mohamed el Bashir is still a wanted man by the ICC for genocide in Darfur.

As signatories to the ICC Laws and given that our constitution (old and new) has included ratified international laws as part of our governing law,

(a) should we have invited el Bashir at all?
(b) while here, were we not under obligation to arrest him and hand him over to the Hague and
(c) what then is our foreign policy with regard to Darfur?

Anyone?
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya


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