Wednesday, September 29, 2010

RE: Al Amin Kimathi

Bull+shit= bullshit
 
In other words bullshit=cow dung. This is manure which is definitely useful.

 

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:41:28 -0700
From: salah.sheikh@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Al Amin Kimathi
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com

Bullshit!!!!!


From: cheche group <chechegroup@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 2:22:34 PM
Subject: RE: Al Amin Kimathi

     I have know soft words for this man hiyo kiherehere yake will teach him some lessons.Did he think Uganda is Kenya where you just payuka and go free. Who told him to go to Kapala, I prey that he never comes back to kenya.
   What human is there to those who dont value human life but will just surface to support Killers  anyway long live Uganda with Kimathi.

--- On Mon, 9/27/10, karegwa muchiri <muchirikaregwa@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: karegwa muchiri <muchirikaregwa@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Al Amin Kimathi
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com, gakamau@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 9:40 PM

 Beatrice Kamau you surprise me that you should be concerned about Almin and his children and his so called loved ones.. If he is innocent, there is nothing to worry and his loved ones have nothing to worry. I am surprised you are not worried about the loved ones of the innocent 70 plus people who died in Uganda from the cowardly terror act. Cyprian argues that the security agencies broke the law by taking the suspects to Uganda, true true but why didnt they arrest some  farmers in  Kwale or Siaya as suspects?. The law is broken all the time and should be broken in public interest. This is not double standards. Its the reality of the past, present and the future.  Suspects nabbed  earlier incriminated their brothers in crime and thats why security forces nabbed them easily. Some have even confessed the role they played in the terrorist actions in Uganda. Lets avoid sentimentalism  in matters so grave. Perhaps our so called human rights activists might want  to tell us why suddenly they  are no longer sentimental about the victims of PEV who are still in camps than to waste time looking for relevance over Almin  Kimathi self sought misfortune? .  Almin Kimathi  took himself to Uganda and he will be charged and the truth will be known   very soon. His  true identity will come out sooner that later. Only time will tell. Press conferences and press releases  only encourage and motivate terrorists that they have allies when innocent terror victims are long dead and forgotten  while  their loved ones continue to suffer....


Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:50:44 -0700
From: gakamau@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Al Amin Kimathi
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com

God forgive those who want to be judges of others like Robert Alai and and Jonah Ongaro.
 
When you write please be sensitive to others especially the children and loved ones of Alamin and the other suspects.  Remember they are all innocent until proven guilty. They all have a right to a fair trial and that is all we are asking for. Even if today Robert and Jonah were arrested in unclear circumstances, we would stand up and demand that you be given a fair hearing/trial because it is your basic right.
 
Have a blessed day

Beatrice G. Kamau
Executive Director
Social Reform Centre (SOREC)



--- On Mon, 9/27/10, orina Nyamwamu <orinaonka@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: orina Nyamwamu <orinaonka@yahoo.com>
Subject: Al Amin Kimathi
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 4:05 PM

I was right to have given up on people who think that the instrument of citizens protest is to be applied to protest against civilians- suspects who have been arrested by governments. If you politicize terrorism in the region and start to believe governments are telling you blindly you shall be in so much trouble.

You protest against actions of governments' omission or commission. You condemn citizens who act in a manner that is despicable.

And before you issue a statement you wait to get official confirmation of what has happened and who has done it.

As we were waiting for intelligence on the Uganda terrorist act, the government of Kenya had already broken the constitution by renditioning Kenyans to Kampala.

Now when do you know propaganda from the truth?
The Israel government has recently sent its agents to kill people in far away lands. Governments all over the world stage terrorist acts so frequently. When do we know an act of  civilian terrorism from that of state terrorism?

I pray for some wit

--- On Sat, 9/25/10, Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists Propagandist
To: "mlalahoi mlalahoi" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 7:34 AM


 I agree with Robert.
 
Al Amin Kimathi should have led a demonstration to denounce the bombing of Kampala. The we could have know he is a good man. He loves Al-Faisal more than the over 70 innocent people who were killed. He loves Al-Faisal more than the Jamaicans. He loves Al-Faisal more than the peace keepers who are killed in Somalia. Kimathi only becomes active when suspected terrorists have been arrested. I totally support the Uganda Government in arresting these people. I also support the Kenyan Government for the cooperation with Uganda.
 
 
Terrorists do not want a central Government in Somalia. They are killing people who have gone to help them e.g AMISOM. Uganda soldiers have been casualties. Surely H.H. President Museveni cannot keep quiete. He is doing a good job. I believe ordinary Somali's want peace in their country.
 
What do terrorists want? We read in the papers that they have been targeting Nairobi and Mombasa. I thought they should be more happy because Kenyans passed a muslim friendly constitution.
 
 

From: alai.robert@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:58:05 +0300
Subject: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists Propagandist
To: wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke; nyciv@googlegroups.com; bidiiafricaINT@googlegroups.com; mlalahoi@googlegroups.com

Security matters should be left to the security bodies. I believe and suspect that Al Amin Kimathi supports and talks for terrorists. Al Amin is very vocal when suspected terrorists are arrested but never vocal when ordinary muslims are arrested. I believe that Al Amin Kimathi is a spokesman for Al-Qaeda and he should be ready to clear his name in a court of law.

His behaviour at the demo to support Al-Faisal reinforced my view. Our security iss more important than the rights of a few fundamentalists be they Christians, Budhists, Muslims or Atheists


Robert Alai
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:54 AM, L. Muthoni Wanyeki <wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke> wrote:
FYI…the joint CS and KNCHR statement on the charging of Al Amin Kimathi
in Uganda released Wednesday morning in the presence of his wife,
who still hasn't been able to communicate with him.

NB: please note that this is a corrected version of what was released (small edits, with the names of the organisations who came, which weren't on the one that the media received).  Please note too that anybody who received the first corrected version last evening should use this version instead.  Primarily because I'd erroneously included HRW on the list of organisations who came, which I shouldn't have as everything released in their name has to go through its internal process first.  So HRW was present, its own statement was given as part of the documentation, but it did not sign onto this one.

Update: The charges are as
per the charge sheets of the other 37 suspects, involving acts of terror
resulting in the deaths of 70 persons ie. he stands accused of
involvement in the July 11 bombings.

Of the 38 suspects, 13 are Kenyan and, of those, 9 were illegally
renditioned for purposes of this trial (when legal extradiction was an
option and a fairly standard procedure, which the Government of Tanzania
has followed in respect of Tanzanian suspects, for example). Two of the
wives of the nine were also present at the press conference.

As previously mentioned, there are a number of organizations following
up on different aspects: a) ensuring continued monitoring of the trials
of the Kenyan suspects; b) strengthening the legal defense for and
possibly mounting a legal challenge to Al Amin's charging given his HRD
status; c) trying to raise and get his case addressed politically, again
given his HRD status. If anybody not already engaged wants to help on
any of those aspects, please let Hassan Omar of the KNCHR:
homar@knchr.org <mailto:homar@knchr.org> or myself know.

Asante!

Muthoni.
--
L. Muthoni Wanyeki
Executive Director
Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC)
P O Box 41079
Nairobi 00100
Kenya
Tel:(254) 20.3874998/9
Fax: (254) 20.3874997
Email: lwanyeki@khrc.or.ke
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