Wednesday, September 29, 2010

Re: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists Propagandist (This is XENOPHOBIC BULLSHIT)

Papa Likondi,
When did Abu become a mkristo mwenye siasa kali? How would you feel if he called you the first Dini ya Mswambwa Mungiki?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Papa Likondi <papalikondi@googlemail.com> wrote:
Abu Ayman
What you are mentioning are MOVEMENT GROUPS fighting for a cause. What cause is Al-Qaeda and Al-Shabab fighting for? A terrorist is a person who cause terror to innocent civillians!
Bureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Kabisaaaaaaaaaaaa. You are the first christian terrorist I have come accross

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:45 AM, abu Ayman <abuayman88@yahoo.com> wrote:
Papa
This is the bigotry which we have always pointed out harboured by anti-Islamic elements like you and Alai.
You are claiming that ALL terrorists are Muslims let me prove to you that you are an obnoxious liar.
The Irish Republican Army is a catholic group clearly labelled by  the British govt as a terrorist group which for decades fought against the protestant domination of Northern Ireland. Interestingly, while it was labelled as a terrorist outfit in Europe it enjoyed the support of the US and it was even allowed to carry out fundraising activities in the US to finance its bombing operations in London.
The Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka fought for against the Sri Lankan govt for several years and they were the ones who are credited for perfecting suicide bombings which is always blamed on Muslims-Rajiv Gandhi the former PM of India was one of the victims of their suicide attacks. They are also listed in the US list of terrorist groups.
Close to home, the Lords Resistance Movement continue to wreak havoc and engage in macabre killings in Uganda, Sudan, Congo and Central African republic. Their beastly acts include raping kids, burning villages and massacres. Interestingly, their claim to be doing this in Jesus' name in their struggle to rule by the biblical commandments.  We are yet to hear you terming them Christian terrrorists.
They are plenty of examples which can be cited of terrorists groups in various parts of the world which have no links with Muslims.
Just before i forgot, our own founding father Mzee Jomo Kenyatta, the father of Uhuru Kenyatta the Kanu chairman and the deputy prime minister was at one time described by the British as a most wanted TERRORIST. The same was applicable to the freedom icon Nelson Mandela yet these were not Muslims.
Stop yr lies Bureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Kabisaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Abu Ayman 


From: Papa Likondi <papalikondi@googlemail.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 10:00:18 AM
Subject: Re: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists Propagandist (This is XENOPHOBIC BULLSHIT)

Robert
Yes terrorists and all their sympathizers should be dealt with without an iota of sympathy. It is interesting to note that all terrorists in the world belong to the Muslim fraternity. Bureeeeeeeeeee Kabisssssssssssssa

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Salah Sheikh <salah.sheikh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Robert Alai;
This is xenophobic bullshit without an iota truth. Your reasoning is warped and without regard to either law or equity. Just because someone is vocal does not mean he supports a particular action. Unlike the "security forces" whose idea of investigation is to rendition people to Ethiopia and then release them without charge after 8 months, Kimathi has always advocated for respect of the Kenyan LAW and Constitution.
Respect for law and constitution is imperative for all the citizens if not let everyone take the matter to his own hands and the ensuing chaos will be detrimental to all of us. Let everyone respect the LAW otherwise lets remove it and do as we wish.
Over to you.


From: Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com>
To: L. Muthoni Wanyeki <wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke>; nyciv@googlegroups.com; bidiiafricaint <bidiiafricaINT@googlegroups.com>; ">" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, September 25, 2010 7:58:05 AM
Subject: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists Propagandist

Security matters should be left to the security bodies. I believe and suspect that Al Amin Kimathi supports and talks for terrorists. Al Amin is very vocal when suspected terrorists are arrested but never vocal when ordinary muslims are arrested. I believe that Al Amin Kimathi is a spokesman for Al-Qaeda and he should be ready to clear his name in a court of law.

His behaviour at the demo to support Al-Faisal reinforced my view. Our security iss more important than the rights of a few fundamentalists be they Christians, Budhists, Muslims or Atheists


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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:54 AM, L. Muthoni Wanyeki <wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke> wrote:
FYI…the joint CS and KNCHR statement on the charging of Al Amin Kimathi
in Uganda released Wednesday morning in the presence of his wife,
who still hasn't been able to communicate with him.

NB: please note that this is a corrected version of what was released (small edits, with the names of the organisations who came, which weren't on the one that the media received).  Please note too that anybody who received the first corrected version last evening should use this version instead.  Primarily because I'd erroneously included HRW on the list of organisations who came, which I shouldn't have as everything released in their name has to go through its internal process first.  So HRW was present, its own statement was given as part of the documentation, but it did not sign onto this one.

Update: The charges are as
per the charge sheets of the other 37 suspects, involving acts of terror
resulting in the deaths of 70 persons ie. he stands accused of
involvement in the July 11 bombings.

Of the 38 suspects, 13 are Kenyan and, of those, 9 were illegally
renditioned for purposes of this trial (when legal extradiction was an
option and a fairly standard procedure, which the Government of Tanzania
has followed in respect of Tanzanian suspects, for example). Two of the
wives of the nine were also present at the press conference.

As previously mentioned, there are a number of organizations following
up on different aspects: a) ensuring continued monitoring of the trials
of the Kenyan suspects; b) strengthening the legal defense for and
possibly mounting a legal challenge to Al Amin's charging given his HRD
status; c) trying to raise and get his case addressed politically, again
given his HRD status. If anybody not already engaged wants to help on
any of those aspects, please let Hassan Omar of the KNCHR:
homar@knchr.org <mailto:homar@knchr.org> or myself know.

Asante!

Muthoni.
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