Tuesday, September 21, 2010

RE: KPLC

Good question Millicent. BUT you have not given a solution. I suggest that you organize a demonstration.
 
My point is that KPLC as a private company is profit driven. Only that in this case it also happens to be a monopoly.
 
Why was such a key institution left in the hands of private indivuduals?
 

Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:09:33 -0700
From: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: KPLC
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com

Jonah, i do have a problem with Kenyans like you. We can not resign to being ripped off in the name of private ownerships. It pains to see people resign to fate.
 
We love staring at closed doors and whine, complain, lament, cry but expect someone to act on our behalf.
 
Where on erath should i be overcharged because its private owned or monopoly. where on earth is it written, i should recieve poor services because a company is privately owned.
 
The question here is not that is the way it is, zoeya. Its, are you happy with this monopoly mistreatment? can we do something about it?

 

From: Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>
To: mlalahoi mlalahoi <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 11:50:50 AM
Subject: RE: KPLC

Ndugu
 
That is the price of a monopoly. They don't need to explain. You either pay OR they disconnect. We could be paying some inneficiencies by KPLC. Doing it is simple- They just load it as fuel charge.
 
And by the way, is KPLC a parastatal OR private company? I'm told the Government owns less 50% stake in the company, hence making it a minority shareholder. This means that private indivuduals could be controling our electicity. Can someone confirm.
 

From: ewabwaya@hotmail.com
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KPLC
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:31:03 +0000

Milly,
Personally I have no option and the reason am stuck with this Silly KPLC thing.

I am sick of it--The month that I was away 15 days on record my bill is 5,000 yet the month I was full house the bill was shs 3,000==what are the justifications and why cant someone address this?

Sick==sick ==sick and sick of KPLC

Ja'kamburi




To: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
CC: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: CHINA BRIBES MALI
From: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:42:58 +0000

Kenyans,

There no most arrogant parastatal in this country equal to KPLC.

They raid our pockets giving high bills which seem to unquestionable. Power surges which destroy our equipments are the order of the day, blackouts are now a norm.

We bear all this kenyans indeed.

Now the strike notice issued is due to expire tomorrow threatening to plunge our country into darkness, yet the management refuses to address the issues.

I propose if we experience disruption due to this arrogant attitude lets sue.

Wakili's in the forum advise.

This is one parastatal which has messed up my finances yet it is a necessity to me. I would love a moment of holding it to account.


Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya

From: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:28:54 +0000
To: <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Cc: <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Subject: CHINA BRIBES MALI


Whats China upto in Mali, donating 50 Limousines.

This is bribery, i wonder what they want to reap in Mali.

Mali had better be careful, they will be having body parts trade in their region. Am told the chinese use them to manifacture herbals. The ones which have currently flooded the kenyan market.Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya

From: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:21:05 +0000
To: <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: modhiambos@yahoo.com
Cc: <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Subject: TROUBLE BREWING IN BURUNDI

Burundi needs to be helped deal with the arising rebellion now before it escalates to unmanageable levels.

One of the mandate of the EAC should be to foster peaceful existence between and within countries.

Can some action be taken Jamani.Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya

From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
Sender: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 07:03:17 -0400
To: <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Cc: <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] MERU; WHY IT PAYS TO LOVE KIBAKI WHOLEHEARTEDLY!

Bwana Oguta,
I think we are missing some issues here. Rose and others are saying that it takes more than having favor from the Govt for an area to develop but that would be an added advantage. Case in point would be Kiraitu's, Martha's and some other areas. These areas were being developed even during Moi's era in spite of the fact that the two were very strong critics of Moi. They used their connection with the NGOs and international comm. to get services such as water and medical services. With Kibaki at the helm, the places moved a notch (or notches higher). Tuju also lobbied for services via parliamentary and international community (mostly Italian based) for services in Rarienda and his cabinet position helped.
 
As we have cabinet ministers who are not able to lobby for services for their people. Some over do it and this can only be good. Others are mere MPs who use bunge and corrindor of power to get services. Those who sleep on their job and fail to even use services such CDF to develop their areas can only be blamed. If an area is denied services because of politics, then we can come in and condemn the leaders putting road blocks.
 
There can never be two constituency in one area which are equally the same in development and so leadership is more important than having your own at the help. Even having a presidency from the constituency can be kazi bure like the case of Jomo Kenyatta. He benefited a few people in gatundu but mostly from other places and forgot Gatundu. It is one of the least developed constituency in the greater Kiambu.
 
You needed to have visited Gatundu during Kenyatta era or a few years after Ngengi took over. Ngengi did far much better than Kenyatta who seemed contented receiving bribes in the name of gatundu Hospital.
 
You needed to take a ride to Gatundu from Githunguri's Komothai area. One time I asked the occupants of a car I was in whether we were in Gatundu and was told to shut up and will not need the answer. Sure enough when we reached gatundu the roads became rough and poverty started to glare on our faces. Magugu had done a wonderful job in his area but you could see very well that Kenyatta was kazi bure. You could also say the same for Kikuyu where Njonjo did wonders in the few years he was an MP. The joke was that even the paths leading to thr river or cattle dip were tarmaked during his era. No wonder Kikuyu continues to be the best constutiency in the country for a long time in terms of maendeleo.
 
No, these fellows dont use their money but we have some who have done wonders using their money. Visit Mwau's and Maina's (Mathera) and will be shown multi milllion public works build using the fellows own money.
 
Other places have excellent managers of CDF, professionally done and this has helped the areas grow. Peter Kenneth's Gatanga is one area. With additional lobbying their areas receive pork from the GOK and this can only good unless it was corruptly received. Even with devolution, having a good leader would help.
 
Now back to your question, what is wrong with Kiraitu's massive development even though it was Govt funded? We can only fault him if we have facts to show that people were arm twisted to pour more than needed wealth to his area. If he lobbied for parliament to pass bills which led to the tarmaking of roads and other infrasture, what is wrong with that? If Raila has lobbied for Kisumu airport to be expanded, are we going to blast him for using his office to develop that area? Why would Tuju and other be condemned for massive development which made their constituencies look like oasis if they didnt corruptly influence the development?
 
Kuria

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Joseph Oguta (DHL CN) <Joseph.Oguta@dhl.com> wrote:
Kagwiria,
How do you determine a hard working MP?
Do they use their own money for road construction or these roads are done by the Government?

From: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com [mailto:youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rose Kagwiria
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:03 AM
To: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com; mlalahoi@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] MERU; WHY IT PAYS TO LOVE KIBAKI WHOLEHEARTEDLY!

Dan

Thanks for your observation about Meru. I would not blame you for your conclusion because you are not from Meru. I would agree with you that the Main tamac roads have been maintained since kibaki  became the presdent. However note Meru is too large to be judged by a person who used Nairobi, Nkubu-Meru town-Nanyuki -and Isiolo roads. These roads were tarmaced even when Mzee Kenyatta was alive but were not well maintained. Personally the development of a place depends on the political leader of that area. For example, the souththern part of meru has very active MPS like Kiraitu Murungi who is the most active member of parliament Meru have. Dan just travel 10 kilometers eastwards is when you wil never repeat your statements. From Meru town to Tharaka which is on the extreme East, the roads are not tarmacked, vehicles go to main Meru town in the morning and return in the evening. No electricity, no piped water, no hospital except one health center which covers a very large area of meru east. most of this underdeveloped area is under MP Muriuki whom i dont know if he is even aware of what happens in the extreem east of meru. He comes from Meru town and may be he believes all other parts of his constituency is like around his home. Peter Munya has tried at least the road leading to his main town of Mikinduri has been tarmacked.

What makes Meru have some areas underdeveloped? It is because of its several different climatical regions and what these areas can produce in terms of income generating products.

1. Isiolo. This town is the entry point for meat animals from Nothern areas of kenya.

2. Maua: This is the district headquarters for North Meru and surrounding areas are full of Miraa which generates alot of income for these guys

3.Nkubu: This town filters the upper areas of meru on the slopes of mt kenya. They grow alot of tea and tea factories and coffee factories are found in these areas. The whole of south meru grow coffee and tea and therefore need for good roads

4.Meru town: This used to be District headquators for the large Meru but currently is the H/Q for central meru. People who live around meru town keep milk cattle and this is where you find meru dairy industries.

On the eastern part of meru, things are different. No tarmac roads, no electricity, No good schools, no hospitals, no cash crops like miraa, coffee, tea, pyrethrum, wheat as other parts of meru. Instead, they plant only maize and beans and some bananas which they go to sell all the way to meru town.
  I hope those people who think Kibaki has done some thing will understand he has done nothing. Its only a few MPS who have tried to do something. Bure kabisaaa


--- On Thu, 9/16/10, kibaya@aol.com <kibaya@aol.com> wrote:

From: kibaya@aol.com <kibaya@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] MERU; WHY IT PAYS TO LOVE KIBAKI WHOLEHEARTEDLY!
To: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 8:12 AM

 
Dan,
Your argument below is one big fallacy! You correctly point to the presence of Nakumatt, Equity, CFC, etc in the town as being driven by economic fundamentals in the region. You correctly point out to the thriving miraa, dairy , coffee, Tea, dairy and other industries as being contributory to the good fortunes enjoyed by the locals and justifying the decision by the corporate entities you cite, to set shop there.
  
Yet, for some mysterious reason you find it necessary to leap to the conclusion that all this is a product of Merus long support for Kibaki! I know you were probably desperate to argue that political loyalty pays, but the Meru example is the wrong one.
 
As Odhiambo points out the meru region is blessed by the Almighty with Good soils and weather patterns that permit the growth of all these industries; it has nothing to do with political patronage. In fact the infrastructure projects you point out, that started soon after 2002 elections were commissioned by none other than the PM Raila Odinga, then Minister for Roads! Raila had campaigned in these areas and he must have been appalled by the sheer waste of agricultural products plenty in this region, just because there were no roads to link them to the market.  Kibaki then was nursing his accident wounds and other health challenges and couldn't even tell or care what from what. 
 
The isiolo developments have nothing to do with proximity to Meru; it has all to do with prospects for Oil in the area and the need to complete the Great North Highway, in planning since Haile salesie and Jomo Kenyatta days! In fact majority of Isiolo residents, save for the Meru inhabitants have always voted for other candidates, not Kibaki.     
 
The appointments to government that you cite have had benefit only to their families; in fact they have extensively divided the Meru community  by being concentrated in "one village" as some politicians have alleged. Here Kibaki, though he probably meant well, has executed rather poorly; Moi did a lot better understanding the Geo and ethno-political realities of our country and making appointments that are sensitive to the same.
 
All in all, good data collection but wrong interpretation.
 
Kibaya   

-----Original Message-----
From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
To: youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 16, 2010 4:33 am
Subject: Re: [YP_Ke] MERU; WHY IT PAYS TO LOVE KIBAKI WHOLEHEARTEDLY!



On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Dan Nyutu <denyutu@gmail.com> wrote:
YPs,
 
I had the opportunity to visit Meru two weeks ago and was impressed by what I saw. It has a thriving agriculture with Miraa farming providing substantial incomes to local families with additional revenues from dairy farming and horticulture.
 
Actually, Equity bank reckons that their branches in this region are some of the most heavily deposited accounts with regular cash generating activities in the area. Nakumatt, a pulse check of how well a town is urbanized, is here too and so is the likes of CFC Stanbic bank and most local companies.
 
But what impressed me most is the infrastructure. The roads are superb! On inquiry, I was told work on the road started a few months after Kibakis 2002 (its like tender were floated and awarded during campaigns) win and has since been re-carpeted thrice. Electricity flows even in the inner villages I visited and nearby in Isiolo, there are advanced massive plans to construct a tourist resort with an internationally classed airport and where the Northern corridor transport link that will link the new Lamu port with Ethiopia, northern Kenya and South Sudan will have a hub. And though Isiolo is cosmopolitan, it has great links with Meru town with most investments in the town coming from here.
 
However, its not difficult to see why. Meru forms the bedrock of Kibakis support. While the rest of Mt. Kenya region supported Matiba in 1992 and 1997, and Uhuru in 2002, here Kibaki ticked all the way from 1992 and they stuck with him till he went to statehouse.
 
When people complain of Kibaki's inner circle being Kikuyus alone, they are flatly wrong. It is here in this region, that Kibaki's presidency has been greatly appreciated with good appointments of key people in government. Head of civil service, Police boss, Judges, etc….
 
I wonder why my area veered to Matiba and Uhuru though I never voted during these times. My village would be different!
 
It really pays to love Kibaki!



Dan,

Meru is self sufficient for starters.

Kibaki+Kiraitu == Electricity+Roads+Water to the masses.


About your village - what you've just said is a misnomer. It's the govt's responsibility to develop all areas of the country regardless of how they vote, given that at the end of the day, they pay taxes to whoever is elected. An election is normally (and should be) used to select the "best of the leaders", not to bribe for development.

And this reminds me why Nyanza is so much left behind in developmental matters. Back in the days when I was in primary school, I was meant to believe that GK meant "guogi Kenyatta" (Kenyatta's dogs). I believe you know about the one treatment and what followed Kenyatta's first visit  (and the last time ever) to Kisumu. I want to believe that marked the genesis of development going only to areas who are in good books of the president.

GK never meant Government of Kenya until I started learning a bit of civics in upper primary:-)
 

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