Monday, September 20, 2010

Re: God didn't create universe - Stephen Hawking !!!

To get both sides of the coin, read Dawkins delusion by Alistair McGrath

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Eastern <mikechege2@yahoo.com> wrote:
Surely People,

How could you ever believe a guy in a vegetative state speaking through a man-made computer to decide for you whether the universe was created or not...!!. With all due respect for the great physicist, i think evolutionists and atheists seem to miss some very essential points and they don't even bother to answer or give attention to questions that don't require mathematical and scientific answers. The physical universe aside, LIFE and the complexities surrounding it is more than just mathematics, physics and science. For example, what maths or physics formula could explain why your spirits are uplifted when you enjoy the could a good meal with friends, when you receive a hug from a loved one or why you feel relaxed and happy when you view a scenic landscape???????

Debate is healthy, but don't allow yourself to be deceived, ask the deeper questions and demand answers......!!!




--- On Fri, 9/3/10, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto@phsotey.fi> wrote:

From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto@phsotey.fi>
Subject: Re: *** God didn't create universe - Stephen Hawking !!!
To: hwaikunu@gmail.com, mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 11:01 PM

Guys,

The discussion is healthy and good. BUT GOD,` to be or not to be`. Is God there or NOT is a very hard question to answer. But what I do know is that almost all of us when in a situation when your ass is on fire we always cry for God`s help. I just do not know why?. Can somebody tell me why?. Stephen Hawking has been praying almost all his life for God to uplift him from his wheel chair, but it looks God have failed him too.

People have had sad experience of being forsaken by let say even parents. broken homes, differences of belief, addiction to drugs or alcohol, even psychological isolation can leave children crippled by this loss. Even adults, the pain may linger. God can take that place in our life, fill that void, and heal that hurt. Guys: the land of the living simply means this life or while  I am living or you are living. So What is GOD?- me I think God is a complex of human HOPE and belief, the driving force behind all of us, the motivation to  do something. That spirit which keeps you living, which keeps you alive and urge you to do something good. The opposite side which tells you to steal, tells you to do something bad, or kill somebody is the Devil side the Saturn. So who created the universe?. For now I do think that I do not want to know that, since there have been a lot, and a lot of theories, some are just too narrow that even a person with a simple brain like mine here can just see as a joke to follow. Even the USA cheated us in the 1960s that they went to the moon. Guys what a joke?. The technology in 1960s was much weaker than the present technology  we have today, so why can n`t they go there now in the 2010 or what have they been doing since 2001-2010?.  Or 1980-1999?. The USA just did not reach the moon, it was a fake, may God  and Obama forgive me about that simple truth. The USA 1960s moon landing was a pshycological warfare for their survival against the   great Soviet  union (Russia) build military machinary.

Paul Nyandoto



>>> Hellen Waikunu 09/03/10 9:02 PM >>>
i am glad to know that i am also not the only one out there. I am an avid reader and i would recommend you check out books by Richard Dawkins.


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Harry <hmumia@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks, G***********t,

Am glad am not the only one who has a keen interest in the misguided notion of "God the Creator"

God did not create the universe, world-famous physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book that aims to banish a divine creator from physics.
Hawking says in his book "The Grand Design" that, given the existence of gravity, "the universe can and will create itself from nothing," according to an excerpt published Thursday in The Times of London.

"Spontaneous creation is the reason why there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," he writes in the excerpt.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper [fuse] and set the universe going," he writes.
His book -- as the title suggests -- is an attempt to answer "the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything," he writes, quoting Douglas Adams' cult science fiction romp, "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

His answer is "M-theory," which, he says, posits 11 space-time dimensions, "vibrating strings, ... point particles, two-dimensional membranes, three-dimensional blobs and other objects that are more difficult to picture and occupy even more dimensions of space." He doesn't explain much of that in the excerpt, which is the introduction to the book.

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