Re: E. Murugi's unconstitutional Remark on Gays/Lesbians (Opar)
Dear all,
Please note that Hon.Murugi only acknowledged the existence of Gays/Lesbians.Had she not spoken,as of now,couldn't the group be existing - or she created them at the forum!
This is how aspects that are considered "criminal"brood simply because we do not acknowledge existence.
@Opar,if you are sure Murugi is not married,is lesbiansm the reason! Why cant you propose to her and then you call us to jig as you say "we do".Some ladies are not married because men like you point to who is not married with reasons without approaching them.
In the alternative,get a few mboys,pick her from wherever she is found,and send some of us with your uncle to Nyeri and just report that Hon.Murugi is safe and in her new home.Just as we had discussed herein afew days ago!
That notwithstanding,the gays/lesbians will still exist.
Please compare Gays/Lesbians with the real men who climb on animals or our women who use vibrators that are in on display for sale in shops.
Where are the real men when ladies go for test tube babies! Or we just leave it for science as an option to women!
Evans MACHERA.
--- On Mon, 10/4/10, killion ooko nyamwanga <killionooko@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: killion ooko nyamwanga <killionooko@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: E. Murugi's unconstitutional Remark on Gays/Lesbians To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 11:40 PM
Rise
Doing prostitution with who? Did they say they were doing it amongst themselves or with men?. This is utter contradiction to the point. Literature is good only if you know it. We all saw it live being explained and this is a total different scenario where people simply abrogate the nature of God and wants us to recognise their insanity.
Killion
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Opara If nothing else i hope you are a mother, sister or aunt to somebody. Not married does not mean you are a lesbian or a gay neither a prostitute otherwise all the nuns would be in this category. My dear lady are you aware that some married women and men are practicing all these you call practice for unmarried? Do you remember few months ago married women said they were practicing prostitution for their own better known reasons? I HOPE AND TRUST YOU WILL WITHDRAW YOUR REMARKS AND APOLOGIZE TO THE MINISTER. You are like pharisees in the bible.
From: Opara Ouma <oparaouma@gmail.com> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 9:41:49 PM Subject: Re: E. Murugi's unconstitutional Remark on Gays/Lesbians
Murugi is simply mad. No wonder she isnt married!!!! A lesbian?
Let us not hide our heads in sand. Latest stats indicate that MARPS have the highest prevalence rate amongst the general population. Deny them services and they will shy away from accessing services and HIV infection increases.
'We need to learn to live with men who have sex with other men..we are in the 21st century and things have changed'. That was the statement by Minister Esther Murugu - Special Programmes to a seminar for homesexuals, lesbians and sex workers.
The current constitution outlaws gays/Lesbina marriages and as well it has (not?) legalised prostitution. But the new bill of rights contains clauses outlawing discrimination on nay grounds, including race and gender. Conservative Kenyans complianed that the contentious clause would pave the way for gay marriage.
Achbishop Desmond Tutu attacked the African clergy for clsoing doors for Gays and Lesbians. In particular, Tutu asked the Kenyan clergy to allow Gay/Lesbian to access to facilities like health, counselling and more so provide love. Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender and Intersex (LGBIT) together with the KNHRC organized the first publc gathering of the Gays and Lesbians applauding the CoE for inclusion of their rights in the constitution.
Should President Kibaki and Raila Odinga then take action against Esther Murugi as per the Sheikh Mohmaed Khalifa of the Council of Imams and Preachers of Kenya?
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