Friday, October 1, 2010

Re: joining activist organization

papa, take so sue me, take your sickness to sickness.com it dosen't
change the world, wait is that your name in small letter?

On 10/1/10, Papa Likondi <papalikondi@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Javan
> Please please please always write your NAME starting with a capital LETTER.
> You make me sick with your stupid writing.
> Join Al Shabab كنت الماعز أنت تثير اشمئزازي غبي جدا Al-shabab@somali.co.so
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:20 PM, javan apudo <safenote@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> my name is javan am interested joining an activist organization,
>> kindly help me find one or recomend me the ones i can join as soon as
>> posible you can email also the ones you know of.
>>
>> On 9/30/10, Lee Makwiny <amosogal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I want to ask Orina to allow me to edit the title for the paper to read
>> > "*Why
>> > the government should break the law in order to Kill Terrorists"*
>> >
>> > We are tired of peopel supporting terrorist in the name the name of
>> getting
>> > funds thourgh their "Human Rights Activitst". They are ready to visit
>> > terrorist in cells but not the families of the people killed by the
>> > terrorist!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM, orina Nyamwamu <orinaonka@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Karegwa Muchiri,
>> >>
>> >> I want to organize a public forum for you to come and explain precisely
>> >> what you stand for. This crazy business of calling for the
>> >> incaceration
>> >> of
>> >> other people with impunity while the real Al qaeda or Al shabab
>> terrorists
>> >> walk on our streets is unacceptable.
>> >>
>> >> If you are ready to present your paper on: *Why the government should
>> >> break the law in order to let Terrorists walk free* then let me know.
>> >>
>> >> And do not forget what I revealed here about Alai when he said Ndung'u
>> >> Wainaina had broken into his offices to attract donor money. Alai is a
>> >> mouth piece for the intelligence who is used to fight back the human
>> >> rights
>> >> activists so that they do not raise a voice against police torture and
>> >> state
>> >> terrorism. So predictable Alai is.
>> >>
>> >> Amen
>> >>
>> >> --- On *Tue, 9/28/10, Salah Sheikh <salah.sheikh@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Salah Sheikh <salah.sheikh@yahoo.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: Al Amin Kimathi
>> >> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 12:09 PM
>> >>
>> >> Karegwa Muchiri,
>> >> people are being detained in Uganda not because the have committed a
>> crime
>> >> but because crimes are dossiers are being manufactured and trumped up
>> and
>> >> they are being tortured to accept it. The whole thing is very
>> suspicious.
>> >> The dossiers being manufactured are like a Hollywood movie connecting
>> >> countries, peoples and organizations, too precise to be believable even
>> to
>> >> a
>> >> nursery student.
>> >> Al-Amin is a prisoner of politics not any crime he committed and any
>> sane
>> >> Kenyan who is not suffering xenophobia like you, Ogaro and Ali can see
>> it.
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> *From:* karegwa muchiri <muchirikaregwa@hotmail.com>
>> >> *To:* mlalahoi@googlegroups.com; gakamau@yahoo.com
>> >> *Sent:* Tue, September 28, 2010 12:40:58 PM
>> >> *Subject:* RE: Al Amin Kimathi
>> >>
>> >> Beatrice Kamau you surprise me that you should be concerned about
>> >> Almin
>> >> and his children and his so called loved ones.. If he is innocent,
>> >> there
>> >> is
>> >> nothing to worry and his loved ones have nothing to worry. I am
>> surprised
>> >> you are not worried about the loved ones of the innocent 70 plus people
>> >> who
>> >> died in Uganda from the cowardly terror act. Cyprian argues that the
>> >> security agencies broke the law by taking the suspects to Uganda, true
>> >> true
>> >> but why didnt they arrest some farmers in Kwale or Siaya as
>> >> suspects?.
>> >> The
>> >> law is broken all the time and should be broken in public interest.
>> >> This
>> >> is
>> >> not double standards. Its the reality of the past, present and the
>> future.
>> >> Suspects nabbed earlier incriminated their brothers in crime and thats
>> >> why
>> >> security forces nabbed them easily. Some have even confessed the role
>> they
>> >> played in the terrorist actions in Uganda. Lets avoid sentimentalism
>> >> in
>> >> matters so grave. Perhaps our so called human rights activists might
>> want
>> >> to tell us why suddenly they are no longer sentimental about the
>> victims
>> >> of
>> >> PEV who are still in camps than to waste time looking for relevance
>> >> over
>> >> Almin Kimathi self sought misfortune? . Almin Kimathi took himself
>> >> to
>> >> Uganda and he will be charged and the truth will be known very soon.
>> His
>> >> true identity will come out sooner that later. Only time will tell.
>> Press
>> >> conferences and press releases only encourage and motivate terrorists
>> >> that
>> >> they have allies when innocent terror victims are long dead and
>> forgotten
>> >> while their loved ones continue to suffer....
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 23:50:44 -0700
>> >> From: gakamau@yahoo.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Al Amin Kimathi
>> >> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> >>
>> >> God forgive those who want to be judges of others like Robert Alai
>> >> and
>> >> and Jonah Ongaro.
>> >>
>> >> When you write please be sensitive to others especially the children
>> >> and
>> >> loved ones of Alamin and the other suspects. Remember they are all
>> >> innocent
>> >> until proven guilty. They all have a right to a fair trial and that is
>> all
>> >> we are asking for. Even if today Robert and Jonah were arrested in
>> unclear
>> >> circumstances, we would stand up and demand that you be given a fair
>> >> hearing/trial because it is your basic right.
>> >>
>> >> Have a blessed day
>> >>
>> >> Beatrice G. Kamau
>> >> Executive Director
>> >> Social Reform Centre (SOREC)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On *Mon, 9/27/10, orina Nyamwamu <orinaonka@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: orina Nyamwamu <orinaonka@yahoo.com>
>> >> Subject: Al Amin Kimathi
>> >> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 4:05 PM
>> >>
>> >> I was right to have given up on people who think that the instrument
>> of
>> >> citizens protest is to be applied to protest against civilians-
>> >> suspects
>> >> who
>> >> have been arrested by governments. If you politicize terrorism in the
>> >> region
>> >> and start to believe governments are telling you blindly you shall be
>> >> in
>> >> so
>> >> much trouble.
>> >>
>> >> You protest against actions of governments' omission or commission. You
>> >> condemn citizens who act in a manner that is despicable.
>> >>
>> >> And before you issue a statement you wait to get official confirmation
>> of
>> >> what has happened and who has done it.
>> >>
>> >> As we were waiting for intelligence on the Uganda terrorist act, the
>> >> government of Kenya had already broken the constitution by renditioning
>> >> Kenyans to Kampala.
>> >>
>> >> Now when do you know propaganda from the truth?
>> >> The Israel government has recently sent its agents to kill people in
>> >> far
>> >> away lands. Governments all over the world stage terrorist acts so
>> >> frequently. When do we know an act of civilian terrorism from that of
>> >> state
>> >> terrorism?
>> >>
>> >> I pray for some wit
>> >>
>> >> --- On *Sat, 9/25/10, Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>* wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com>
>> >> Subject: RE: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists
>> >> Propagandist
>> >> To: "mlalahoi mlalahoi" <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
>> >> Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 7:34 AM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Robert.
>> >>
>> >> Al Amin Kimathi should have led a demonstration to denounce the bombing
>> of
>> >> Kampala. The we could have know he is a good man. He loves Al-Faisal
>> more
>> >> than the over 70 innocent people who were killed. He loves Al-Faisal
>> more
>> >> than the Jamaicans. He loves Al-Faisal more than the peace keepers who
>> are
>> >> killed in Somalia. Kimathi only becomes active when suspected
>> >> terrorists have been arrested. I totally support the Uganda Government
>> in
>> >> arresting these people. I also support the Kenyan Government for the
>> >> cooperation with Uganda.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Terrorists do not want a central Government in Somalia. They are
>> >> killing
>> >> people who have gone to help them e.g AMISOM. Uganda soldiers have been
>> >> casualties. Surely H.H. President Museveni cannot keep quiete. He is
>> doing
>> >> a
>> >> good job. I believe ordinary Somali's want peace in their country.
>> >>
>> >> What do terrorists want? We read in the papers that they have been
>> >> targeting Nairobi and Mombasa. I thought they should be more happy
>> >> because Kenyans passed a muslim friendly constitution.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> From: alai.robert@gmail.com
>> >> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 07:58:05 +0300
>> >> Subject: Charging of Al Amin Kimathi - I believe he is a terrorists
>> >> Propagandist
>> >> To: wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke; nyciv@googlegroups.com;
>> >> bidiiafricaINT@googlegroups.com; mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> >>
>> >> Security matters should be left to the security bodies. I believe and
>> >> suspect that Al Amin Kimathi supports and talks for terrorists. Al Amin
>> is
>> >> very vocal when suspected terrorists are arrested but never vocal when
>> >> ordinary muslims are arrested. I believe that Al Amin Kimathi is a
>> >> spokesman
>> >> for Al-Qaeda and he should be ready to clear his name in a court of
>> >> law.
>> >>
>> >> His behaviour at the demo to support Al-Faisal reinforced my view. Our
>> >> security iss more important than the rights of a few fundamentalists be
>> >> they
>> >> Christians, Budhists, Muslims or Atheists
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *Robert Alai*
>> >> *Blogger / Net Evangelist
>> >> tech@techmtaa.com*
>> >> *JOBS*: *www.myafricancareer.net* <http://www.myafricancareer.net/>
>> >> *TECH BLOG:* *www.techmtaa.com* <http://www.techmtaa.com/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:54 AM, L. Muthoni Wanyeki <
>> >> wanyeki@iconnect.co.ke> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> FYI…the joint CS and KNCHR statement on the charging of Al Amin Kimathi
>> >> in Uganda released Wednesday morning in the presence of his wife,
>> >> who still hasn't been able to communicate with him.
>> >>
>> >> NB: please note that this is a corrected version of what was released
>> >> (small edits, with the names of the organisations who came, which
>> weren't
>> >> on
>> >> the one that the media received). Please note too that anybody who
>> >> received
>> >> the first corrected version last evening should use this version
>> instead.
>> >> Primarily because I'd erroneously included HRW on the list of
>> >> organisations
>> >> who came, which I shouldn't have as everything released in their name
>> has
>> >> to
>> >> go through its internal process first. So HRW was present, its own
>> >> statement was given as part of the documentation, but it did not sign
>> onto
>> >> this one.
>> >>
>> >> Update: The charges are as
>> >> per the charge sheets of the other 37 suspects, involving acts of
>> >> terror
>> >> resulting in the deaths of 70 persons ie. he stands accused of
>> >> involvement in the July 11 bombings.
>> >>
>> >> Of the 38 suspects, 13 are Kenyan and, of those, 9 were illegally
>> >> renditioned for purposes of this trial (when legal extradiction was an
>> >> option and a fairly standard procedure, which the Government of
>> >> Tanzania
>> >> has followed in respect of Tanzanian suspects, for example). Two of the
>> >> wives of the nine were also present at the press conference.
>> >>
>> >> As previously mentioned, there are a number of organizations following
>> >> up on different aspects: a) ensuring continued monitoring of the trials
>> >> of the Kenyan suspects; b) strengthening the legal defense for and
>> >> possibly mounting a legal challenge to Al Amin's charging given his HRD
>> >> status; c) trying to raise and get his case addressed politically,
>> >> again
>> >> given his HRD status. If anybody not already engaged wants to help on
>> >> any of those aspects, please let Hassan Omar of the KNCHR:
>> >> homar@knchr.org <mailto:homar@knchr.org> or myself know.
>> >>
>> >> Asante!
>> >>
>> >> Muthoni.
>> >> --
>> >> L. Muthoni Wanyeki
>> >> Executive Director
>> >> Kenya Human Rights Commission (KHRC)
>> >> P O Box 41079
>> >> Nairobi 00100
>> >> Kenya
>> >> Tel:(254) 20.3874998/9
>> >> Fax: (254) 20.3874997
>> >> Email: lwanyeki@khrc.or.ke
>> >> URL: www.khrc.or.ke
>> >>
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>> Best Regards,
>> Javan V. Apudo.
>> CELL: +254 723 567 031
>> Email: safenote@gmail.com
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