Evans - If your sister tells you she is Lesibian and doesnt want a real man. What will be your advise in simple terms? What you saw at Kasarani was mere expression and not something to be adhered....even if they demanded they should be allowed to be recognized....God didnt create Adam and gave him Steve to sleep with!
Some debates are marked 'intelligent' and yet they turn out to be a mere collection of postings. Can anyone tell me if he or she is willing to be married or have sex with someone of the same sex on this forum? Hebu guys/ladies come out so that i can know who you are? I will then respect your rights
Prostitute in Koinange is a vice that need to be eliminated. Everytime the church brings up an issues - people have good excuses 'WHY CANT THE CHURCH PREACH MORALS'. Does that amount to what my god Pastor White used to call 'HIGH CLASS NONSENSE'. No religion, no culture condones this. Its should be condemned with strongest terms ever....
Despite acknowledging that this vice exists - we do not say its right! Its SIN just like any other but worse than any other! We do not need to play politics all the time for sake of it. We cannot allow an institution of family and marriage to be destroy by mere human rights.....
Watu wanapayuka tu lakini waaambiwe their wives are Lesbians and their Husbands jump on another man's ass, they will freak like a one day rained on chick! HIV prevalence in predominantly Muslim countries has been attributed to gays and Lesbians who hide themselves to do the act. I am happy that Muslims in Kenya have stood against this vice. It will be a disaster to have these fellows.
And afterall, why a group of lawyers and one sided activists were denying that the constitution didnt open windows for such associations? And now you turn to say lets allow them to thrive in our homes.
Regards
Kombo Elijah
Some debates are marked 'intelligent' and yet they turn out to be a mere collection of postings. Can anyone tell me if he or she is willing to be married or have sex with someone of the same sex on this forum? Hebu guys/ladies come out so that i can know who you are? I will then respect your rights
Prostitute in Koinange is a vice that need to be eliminated. Everytime the church brings up an issues - people have good excuses 'WHY CANT THE CHURCH PREACH MORALS'. Does that amount to what my god Pastor White used to call 'HIGH CLASS NONSENSE'. No religion, no culture condones this. Its should be condemned with strongest terms ever....
Despite acknowledging that this vice exists - we do not say its right! Its SIN just like any other but worse than any other! We do not need to play politics all the time for sake of it. We cannot allow an institution of family and marriage to be destroy by mere human rights.....
Watu wanapayuka tu lakini waaambiwe their wives are Lesbians and their Husbands jump on another man's ass, they will freak like a one day rained on chick! HIV prevalence in predominantly Muslim countries has been attributed to gays and Lesbians who hide themselves to do the act. I am happy that Muslims in Kenya have stood against this vice. It will be a disaster to have these fellows.
And afterall, why a group of lawyers and one sided activists were denying that the constitution didnt open windows for such associations? And now you turn to say lets allow them to thrive in our homes.
Regards
Kombo Elijah
From: Evans MACHERA <evansmachera@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 11:05:38 AM
Subject: [NewVisionKenya] E.Murugi's unconstitutional Remark on Gays/Lesbians
Dear friends, Deny the existence of something,it finds ways of brooding itself,metamorphoses to stages that it springs its tentacles everywhere. I do not know how many made it to the World Social Forum that was held at Kasarani about 3 years ago. Among the many forums that showcased their agenda were Gays/Lesbians.My group paid them a visit among others and the following were my observations. a) Beautiful girls and real handsome men made from our Nairobi university among other institutions and society were members. b) Succinctly their message was one,recognize our sex orientation by making necessary laws as in other jurisdictions. Sometime back,i plucked a passage from Pambazuka News Network in which i am a subscriber.The passage was about Gays/lesbians in Ghana.I posted it online and received heavy condemnation. There is physical abuse to these group in Malawi among other countries.We have the same in Uganda. In our matatus,public toilets,you will find numbers asking for a gay/lesbian to call that number. I wish to make the following observations;- a) Christians who condemn should seize the opportunity to teach lessons on family life and sexuality in general. b)The general members of the society who do not like the orientation should look after their children,and friends so check on unfamiliar traits to avoid complaints and condemnation. c) We need to open up to realities ( We denied HIV/Aids and condemned the infected as it became a stigma until recently when it was declared a national disaster).We all debated here about abortion with denials etc but the fact is its going on.You go to Koinange,those girls are merely supplying to the demand in market - continue denying ( your daughter/sister/aunt/ etc) will make it there,there is no hiding. Now,Esther Murugi the Minister is only acknowledging the existence of the group. Assuming she denies,will they become extinct like dinosaurs that existed more that six million years ! Does acknowledging mean supporting and or even practicing the same! What does Change mean in social circles as far as sexuality is concerned! Evans MACHERA. --- On Sun, 10/3/10, enrique ndegwa <riq.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
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