Re: Ruto to face fraud charges, court rules

Sagongonyi,
I hear on the first part of your arguement. Since we dont know what is the motive, the best position is yours. Give
the fellow the benefit of time.

On the last part, I would urge you to read UK and Ruto's lips and then read lips of those who compiled the KHRC reports among others. Also read Waki's lips and the reports in the newspapers. If you dont have the KHRC report, let me know and I will send it to you
kiprivate. You then know why Ruto and UK have tried to have their names purged from the reports. I never said he will be taken to the Hague unless your english teacher misled you. I said "hoping that he will not be airlifted before then".  The newspapers reports are written in black and white and even somebody who flopped in class 8 and can read and tell you who are likely to be airlifted.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:34 AM, sagongonyi chemurwok <chemurwok@gmail.com> wrote:

Kuria-Mwangi,

I do not think Ruto's intention in this case was to delay justice but
rather to seek justice. Our judicial system has a provision for one to
seek justice by way of referencing his case to the constitutional
courts. Our forefathers must have had a reason for provisioning that
in our system. Ruto did not ask the constitutional judges to delay
their judgement......they delayed because they are either incompetent
or political. When one looks at the decision of these judges in Ruto's
case, one wonders why it had to wait for all these years. The
judgement looks too simple.... it does not make sense to me. Why are
so many cases pending in courts? in my opinion, there is a lot to do
with politics and incompetence or may be these guys are just too
demoralized. I do not know what you meant with Ruto being airlifted
before 2012, are you by any chance privy to Ocampo's docs? may be you
can tell us more about who is on that list.

On 10/18/10, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mburi,
> You are right about the judicial system. That need to be fixed.
> Unfortunately we can only sympathize with Ruto. He cannot use the delay in
> justice
> as an argument unless the law has such provisions (as in the statue of
> limitation-Sp). In this case, Ruto did what the politicians do, hide under
> the constitutional interpretation in order to buy time and may be escape
> justice. If he really wanted this case concluded first, he should have gone

> ahead and demand a quick settlement of the case. He took the longer path and

> should take the bite. He should avoid politicizing and demand that the case
> be concluded as first as possible. Unfortunately that means that he will be
> required to step-aside. Another delay like the one he plans to have by way
> of appealing will see the theft case hanging on his neck by 2012 (hoping
> that he will not be airlifted before then).
>
> We can only pray for brother Bill for the tribulations to ease.
>

> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Eric Wabwaya Mburi
> <ewabwaya@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
>>
>> Kuria,
>> How are you keeping my bother?I hope well.I am reading alot of malice in
>> this case of brother Hon Ruto Samoei.Since the year 2001 what have the
>> honorable judges been waiting for to deliver such a verdict.?Anyone would
>> read malice even if the case is water tight
>> Ja'kamburi
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:38:34 -0400
>>
>> Subject: Ruto to face fraud charges, court rules
>> From: kjmwangi@gmail.com
>> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
>> CC: Youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com; africa-oped@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>> Oh not another punch. What is happening to our brother in Christ? Is he
>> being finished politically as he alleges or
>> he is facing a bad luck after another. This is too much for our brother in
>> Christ.
>>
>>
>> Higher Education minister William Ruto will face a Sh96m fraud case
>> following a ruling by a constitutional court Friday.
>> A three judge bench declined to grant Mr Ruto prayers in a case involving
>> the sale of Ngong Forest land to the Kenya Pipeline Company nine years
>> ago.
>> Through his lawyer, Katwa Kigen, Mr Ruto said the case was meant to finish
>> him politically, was discriminatory and constituted an infringement of his
>> rights.
>>
>>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1033706/-/11j4c3oz/-/index.html
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