Otieno Sungu
Stop bringing public Office tribalism here. What does the constitution say? Does it demand that someone holding Dual Citizenship cannot hold public office? If not then why are you already "Bagua-ring" them. You must already know, by now, that the "Ndiasipora" (Diaspora) people hold a abig of clout, as their Constituency is the single biggest Forein revenue earner to the Kenyan Government. Usiwabague mapema hivyo!! Ama???
Jagem
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Subject: Restrictions on dual citizenship-Very good indeed for public office and county loyalty!!!
Njoroge,
Good question you ask here, why would we want foreignors to hold public office? Or, why would we want people who may ran away after commiting economic crimes because they have other nationalities?
If you want to hold public position, be loyal, first denounce your dual citizenship and come back and contest, that way, you owe unquestionable loyalty to Kenyan and the Kenyan people.
We do not want to play polygamy with political office. Othewise, remain a private citizen and enjoy even tripple citizenship is that helps your business and investments. Imagine if one is to negotiate a deal for us with a foreign government where they also hold citizenship? Isn't this a case of conflict of interest? Which side will he get the best deal for? Who will they be loyal to?
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Subject: [KOL] Re: [THE NYC:5237] Re: Restrictions on dual citizenship
Jambo all,
I do not see a problem with this provision. Holding a public position is such a sacred privilege and needs to be by persons of impeccable loyalty! Moreover, this provision was as is the entire period we conducted extensive constitutional debate on this fora; therefore I do not understand why people are sulking over it now. Why would anyone want to serve to publics?
The principle behind Dual Citizenship is to allow Kenya nationals resident in other countries to access opportunities that they would otherwise not access in those countries by virtue of them being non-citizens and still retain their Kenyan citizenship with all benefits and rights safe for right to be elected or appointed into public service.
Unless there is something I am not seeing in the bigger picture, I see nothing wrong.
Njoroge Waithera.
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Sent: Fri, 22 October, 2010 9:19:52
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This may mean that my Canadian citizenship has to go, something I worked so hard to acquire. Life sure sucks.
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Oduor Maurice Owadg'Atieno
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I do not see a problem with this provision. Holding a public position is such a sacred privilege and needs to be by persons of impeccable loyalty! Moreover, this provision was as is the entire period we conducted extensive constitutional debate on this fora; therefore I do not understand why people are sulking over it now. Why would anyone want to serve to publics?
The principle behind Dual Citizenship is to allow Kenya nationals resident in other countries to access opportunities that they would otherwise not access in those countries by virtue of them being non-citizens and still retain their Kenyan citizenship with all benefits and rights safe for right to be elected or appointed into public service.
Unless there is something I am not seeing in the bigger picture, I see nothing wrong.
Njoroge Waithera.
"True generosity consists precisely in fighting to destroy the causes which nourish false charity" Paulo Freire
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Subject: [THE NYC:5237] Re: Restrictions on dual citizenship
This may mean that my Canadian citizenship has to go, something I worked so hard to acquire. Life sure sucks.
Courage,
Oduor Maurice Owadg'Atieno
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Subject: Restrictions on dual citizenship
From the Constitution:
Citizenship and leadership
78. (1) A person is not eligible for election or appointment to a State office
unless the person is a citizen of Kenya.
(2) A State officer or a member of the defence forces shall not hold dual
citizenship.
(3) Clauses (1) and (2) do not apply to—
(a) judges and members of commissions; or
(b) any person who has been made a citizen of another country by
operation of that country's law, without ability to opt out.
Further to 3, consolation is that Councillors are not state officers so dual citizens can gun for these elective posts if Parliament legislates to have them.
Omtatah
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