Thursday, July 15, 2010

Re: HIV VACCINE

Mr Benji,

Well observed. This is not to rule out the effect of the legit issues you've raised -- the whole scourge is complex!  But, to me, the main problem with this menace (in our country and in many parts of the world) is the difficulty in the management of behavior change -- this is the hardest part, I think! People preach one thing and they do exactly the contrary! As we know, research studies have cogently shown that HIV/AIDS (plus its opportunistic infections) is significantly associated with poverty, literacy, and many other socio-ecominc factors -- which hit, badly, the least developed countries (LDCs), more than the West.  This said, the effective use of protective "gadgets" (re condoms etc) also varies significantly across the globe and the LDCs, I believe, play very poorly on the majority of these areas and thus, the escalating prevalent rates.

For example, look how well Uganda did in the early 80s in the fight against HIV/AIDS re advocating awareness ...they obtained nearly 99% rate (as a role model) -- the HIV/AIDS prevalent rates drop tremendously.  People used to wear tags with a "I'm HIV Positive" label -- that scared people to their spines -- behavior improved (those days).  But what do we see in the same country now? The numbers are astonishingly skyrocketing! The same is happening all over the world, especially in the LDCs. I was surprised one day as we did HIV/AIDS sentinel surveillance, surveying some commercial sex workers-CSWs (aka prostitutes) in their hideouts (brothels) around Kenya in the mid 90s.  Majority of them (whose clients were mainly track-drivers) said they would rather get HIV/AIDS than get Malaria! Reason was that former gives a window of time for you to enjoy life while the former kills you in hrs...what a response! This is the time when some strategies were laid out by groups (in the fight against HIV/AIDS) in the country devised a strategy to put some of the CSWs into small income generating projects and monitored them -- a lot did very well and stopped the CSW business. So, to me, if a method can be found to help foster behavior change, that would have a positive impact in mitigating HIV/AIDS.

Chris


From: Mr BENJI <me_benji@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 5:02:59 AM
Subject: Re: HIV VACCINE

I must say that as a young person who lived in Kenya my first 20 years, then in the States over 10 years I was always astounded by the fact that in the West people can be very promiscious and I even remember seeing so many 14 year olds in Chicago pushing trolleys with children. Basically children raising children. But with the great lifestyles, fast life, big money and creature comforts I must say AIDs was but a rumour.  Statistics might show an infected rate of 8% but still this the USA is a country of over 300 million most dating widely, high divorce rates, high child birth etc.
Meanwhile in Africa, where values and religion are embraced and people will not even hold hands on the street guess what AIDS is the main topic, front and centre wreaking havoc.
There must be some sort of conspiracy and the whole thing about vaccines and how the medical devolpment in Kenya was quicklt shrouded in secrecy is absurd.
Even with education on prophylactics and condom distribution AIDs has still managed to wipe out entire villages in Africa.
The West cannot be trusted.

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, JOSEPH NYONGESA <josefnyongesa@gmail.com> wrote:

From: JOSEPH NYONGESA <josefnyongesa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: HIV VACCINE
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 2:00 PM

Jagem it is true. No vaccine for the deadly virus. Media like exeggerating whatever they report to catch more eyes.

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com> wrote:

Rose
These are gimmicks, don't be fooled shemeji wangu. The truth is nobody is really trying to discover a vaccine for HIV. This is because the epidemic is ravaging mtu nyeusi and ma Kampuni za madawa are making roaring business swindling their way throughout Bara la muafrica.
 
Dawa ilishaa vubuliwa kitambo pale Kemri, na Davy Koech. Halafu nengine ikavumbuliwa na Msamia mmoja anaetwa Obel. Lakini walijua kuwa hizo uvumbuzi zita haribu soko, na ile pesa wangetengeneza. Hivyo basi they banned Obel's Concoction as well as Koech's kemron. They then ordered WHO to effect this. Muafrica then was cheated with cheap chalk supplies by "Dawa Companies" from "Ugenya Siaya Alego(USA). To enforce their will they sent another quack from Texas called "bush man". This Bush man went around Africa forcing heads of states to sign agreements with him that those countries will only allow this chalk from Ugenya Siaya Alego to be imported for treating Aids sufferers.
 
If you need cure, then look for Koech or Obel. Obel has a concoction which he will supply at a micro fraction the price of this chalk. One Jerrican will be enough to turn a victim from positive to negative. Many people reading this will think I have gone bonkers, but how comes every continent has an agenda for Africa, but Africa do not have an agenda for itself. Europe has an Agenda and a framework for Africa, same as America, China, India, Middle East and even Australia. How come Africans don't have an agenda for themselves? When will our Leaders come up with an agenda to eradicate Aids? Read Harry Mumia's observation on some of these so called Western Cultures and how they are affecting our mentality.
 
Just have faith in our brains and people. This is why we need a Visionary Leader to move our country to the next stage.
 
Jagem

From: Rose Kagwiria <ikirimakagwiria@yahoo.com>
To: youngkenyansforchange@yahoogroups.com; mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 7:39:59 PM
Subject: HIV VACCINE



HIV vaccine:

I hope this is a fact. There were so many viral killer diseases which really killed alot of people some times back but when the vaccines against these killer diseases were discovered, some were completely eliminated like small pox. Other viral killer diseases which used to clear children in minutes are measles and others like polio which used to leave so many children crippled. Currently we are fighting with viral sexually transmitted  diseases like hepatitis B and HIV which can also be transmitted from the mother to the baby during delivery if the obstetricians, midwives and nurses are not careful. Its easier to be infected by hepatitis B than HIV because of the nature of its virus but people are less  scared of hepatitis B than HIV simply because there is vaccine. If the pregnant mother is found to be hep B positive during pregnancy, the doctors and midwives ensure the baby receives hep B  vaccine and immunoglobulins(antibodies)within the first few hours after delivery . Let me make it more clear for non medics. Vaccines stimulates  the body form the antibodies(askaris )  which help the body fight germs. the vaccines are disease specific and each vaccine will help the body form antibodies against that particular disease eg measles vaccine will help the body form antibodies against measles infection. The vaccines don't work straight away, most vaccines take one month to stimulate  the body develop antibodies against that disease. This is why mothers are advised to take back their  babies for next vaccine in one month. If the vaccine is repeated before the given time, it becomes a waste. If the mother is late to take the baby for vaccine, its better for her to take the baby later than earlier.
   What is immunoglobulins. These are ready made antibodies against certain diseases and when given they act within a short time to kill that particular microorganisms(germs). This is why a baby born of hep B positive mother is given both vaccine and immunoglobulins at the same time.
    According to kenyan daily nation of 12th july, there is an article talking about a possibility of development of HIV vaccine which may turn out to be reasonably effective. Read the attached article if you have time

Rose
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