Buiywo,
There is very little good Moi occassioned this country especially on the reform front in his 24 years of reign and the less spoken about him, the better. He is a bitter pill for reforms and it is the height of hipocrisy for a man who in 24 years, never even gave Kenyans an opportunity to discuss a draft to be at the forefront taking about reforms.
You seem to suffer from KANU days hangover which you would do better to wean yourself of, we are in a new era where leaders lead from the front in reforms the way Kibaki and Raila are doing, not castrating reformists!!!
Welcome to the 22nd Century!!!!!
Otieno Sungu
From: Buiywo Siongiki <kubesto@gmail.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 6:06:03 PM
Subject: Re: Moi threatens to spill beans on land issue
Robert,
ofcourse Alai my opinion was based on some comments that apparently known personalities are often referred Moi orphans by the same people we believe to be equally learned. Of course in this generation we expect civilized citizens to talk with majurity, but is not the case even for some leaders. As such my reference below was the community currently being seen as the warlords when indeed they aren't.
thats it.
thats it.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Robert Alai <alai.robert@gmail.com> wrote:
Buiywo (That is not your name though)
There is a community calle "Moi Community"? And why do you think that
there are people who when people reveal anything or challenge them to
anything then "Peace will not be there". Do you think any one
community has a monopoly to violence? Are you living in the primitive
world where people use thorax or a civilised world. Can you please
tell the whatever "Moi Community" you refer to below that they dont
have a monopoly to violence and it is primitive to use violence in
this technological and major civilisation age.
It is simply sick and backward
Alai
On Jul 20, 5:41 pm, Buiywo Siongiki <kube...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tell them Hospitality, tell them. i can assure Orengo was just puppetting
> for the sake of being seen to defend YES. For heavens sake Moi was in power
> for 24 years and was an MP since the LEGCO(Legistlative Council) in 1957
> where he represented the Rift Valley province when it was 8 regions then .
> he knows exactly who owns what and Kenyatta was fully aware and the likes of
> Njonjo(former AG ) why they handed power to him in 1978. Where was the noisy
> Orengo then??????????????/
> guys guys let us not underate Moi, he might cause a shock to the
> complainants by revealing the entire truth.
> Who owns the former ADC land in Nakuru-Kuresoi disctrict? who sold the Njoro
> farms( near Molo) to Central Kenya occupants, who owns more than half of
> Nakuru district, who owns the Maasai Mau.
> Kenyans watch carefully lest more are yet to come.
> we cannot castigate the Moi community just because someone think being a
> minister now in the Grand coalition government is all what ones needs., We
> need peace in Kenya and we need each other after the referendum lest we
> forget where we have come from.
>
> Good day brothers and sisters.
>
> Kubesto
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Hospitality Management Services Ltd <
>> kensudservi...@gmail.com> wrote:> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyand...@phsotey.fi>wrote:
> > Mzee Moi must be given respect and allowed to air his views as a citizen.
> > On the land question, we ALL know how, soon after independence, the Central
> > Kenya mafia grabbed huge chunks of land - right from Rift Valley to Coast
> > Province. We may wish to forgive the Kenyatta era grabbers but the grabbing
> > of the 80's was spread right across the the nation - from the Lakenjins to
> > the Kisiis, to the Chibanas to the Maasai, Turkana .... Why we keep singing
> > about the Moi grabbing is because Moi was unfortunate enough to be in power
> > when most Kenyans were well-educated, enlightened and could therefore
> > question governance lapses.
> > Tell me, all that land in Taita and the Coastal strip, lying idle, is owned
> > by who? The Kenyattas, Mahihus, Mathenges, Koinanges.... In RV there are
> > hundreds upon hundreds of acres, stretching from Nakuru to Naivasha and
> > beyond... owned by Central Kenya grabbers. YES! Let Mzee Moi spill the
> > beans. He has been demonised enough and a time comes when a man must say it
> > as it is , at least to clear his name.
> > Mathias.
>
>> >> mlalahoi+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mlalahoi%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
> >> Kenyans,
>
> >> We kenyans have proved that we are amazing and sometimes just stupid and
> >> sleepy. When I read what our former president ( Daniel Arap Moi) wrote
> >> about land grabbing and how he threatens to spill beans on land issue makes
> >> me wonder how a whole president can vomit such words: read below;
>
> >> `He hit out at those talking about land grabbing in Rift Valley, adding
> >> the original inhabitants of the province could not be accused of grabbing
> >> their ancestral land.`
> >> Jomo Kenyatta was from central province so all the land the man grabbed
> >> from central province was not even a bit of a crime. Moi is telling us that
> >> all rift valley gangs or politicians who grabbed land in the rift valley are
> >> innocent, so are politicians in any part of Kenya. So long as you grab from
> >> your province you are innocent, because that is your ancestral land. Fellow
> >> Kenyans: Why are we prosecuting Kenyans who rob kenyan central bank? or who
> >> grab money from the bank. Is that not the bank made by their ancestors or
> >> what?. Is there any thing called crime in kenya nowadays?.
>
> >>http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000014220&catid=4&a=1
>
> >> Paul Nyandoto
>
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