--- On Tue, 7/20/10, David Liambila <dliambila@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: David Liambila <dliambila@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: *** The Truth : You don't need JESUS in your LIFE -----
> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:34 AM
> Harry,
>
> You sure should thank God (the very Lord that you deny),
> that I'm not
> the Lord of the universe. Otherwise if it was within my
> powers I sure
> would have loved to send you off the Ananiah and Saphira's
> way.
>
> While i agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion in
> life, i
> don't understand why you should try to castigate the
> Christian life,
> which you have never practised and which you don't have any
> experience
> about. In your litle knowledge, you seem to think that
> salvation, or
> faith in Christ, is meant to give one an easy ride in life.
> Dead
> wrong. Salvation is meant to give one an identity in life,
> a kind of
> lifestyle, the principles that help you to live, the do's
> and don't's
> of life. Then after that it also provides hope for the
> after life.
> Period.
>
> Now, please, let those who know about Christianity comment
> on it. And
> let those who know only paganism give their expert advice
> about
> paganism. Will you?
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Harry <hmumia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is to the Christian Republic,
> > It has become increasingly clear to me, over the
> years, that the message of
> > Jesus Christ, the Gospel of Christ, the teachings of
> Jesus Christ as
> > the savior of humanity, the teachings that you need
> him in your life has no
> > basis. I have examined this life folks, over the few
> years i have lived and
> > there is nothing fundamental can be attributed to
> someone accepting Jesus as
> > his personal savior.
> > Let us begin by generally accepting some fundamentals
> about this life. It is
> > full of challenges. Problems even. Some are within
> you control and some are
> > outside your control. Some are both. Sickness, for
> example can be within or
> > outside your control. A road accident may be outside
> your control. A divorce
> > could be both. Getting a job could be out of your
> control, or within ....
> > Lets also accept that everyone can get what he wants
> in life....everyone can
> > be successful, a failure, in all spheres of life, and
> this could also be
> > within his control or outside his control.
> > The message of accepting Jesus has always bordered on
> the fact that by doing
> > so, you improve your lifestyle, you generally become a
> better person, you
> > relate to others well, you become generous, forgiving,
> loving, caring, you
> > treat your wife and husband better, just like Jesus
> taught. By accepting
> > Jesus into your life, eventually your life will be
> better and better. You
> > will fall sick less, and if you do you will heal
> faster. And because you
> > pray and fast often, misfortunes will not come your
> way as much as they do
> > for the heathens.
> > But is this true?
> > The lives of people who accept Jesus are no better
> than the lives of the
> > other human beings. Not on this earth at least. The
> problem is that when you
> > accept Jesus, you start imagining your life is being
> managed by someone else
> > and so you attribute everything to him. This is the
> worst DOGMA of ALL
> > TIME. I have seen the so called Children of God
> getting just as messed up as
> > the rest of the flock. When it comes to happiness, the
> only parameter for
> > happiness is not Jesus. I have seen very unhappy
> Christians, saved ones,
> > jobless ones, sick ones, and very prayerful ones. I
> have also seen very
> > happy atheists. Healthy ones. Wealthy ones. With happy
> marriages. And very
> > generous, very accommodating. Very reasonable. And
> they live by the
> > generally acceptable principles of life like honesty,
> kindness, integrity,
> > hard work etc.
> > You do not need Jesus, just live well, appreciate
> nature, be kind and
> > honest, and take everything in stride. ALL SHALL BE
> WELL Goddammit!!
> >
> >
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