Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

You are welcome my brother and im sorry if I sounded a bit too harsh, it was not my intention.

Have a good day otherwise.

Ike



From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 9:32:56 PM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

Isaac
Thanks for the Correction. May I take this opportunity to offer my sincere apologies for the error, of giving the honorable members my own misinformed names. I will check my facts first before sitting and punching letters on the key board again. Al I was hurriedly saying was that in the heartland of "No" proponents to the Constitution, there are Women MPs who saw the light and stood firm in campaining for "Yes."
 
Jagem


From: "mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca" <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 5:56:21 AM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

Isaac,

It is ok to point out such innocent errors but I think your language was a bit harsh. In my experience, if I have to get that harsh, I do it privately.

We all post here in good faith and none of us deliberately aspire to submit erroneous information to this forum.

I think it was an innocent mistake, one of those that you become aware of just after you click SEND.

Cpurage,
Maurice

Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network


From: Isaac Ochola <isaacochola@yahoo.com>
Sender: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:58:09 -0700 (PDT)
To: <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

Jagem !

Please check your facts.

Lorna passed away in a plane crash with the late Kones. Sambili is Helen and not Margaret.

Dont display your ignorance of such issues. "Little" things matter.

Ike



From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 5:10:27 PM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

Kagwiria
 
Lona Leboso, Margaret Sambili, Sally Kosgei are all Ministers or Assistant Ministers. They Championed Yes, throughout the Heartland of "Lift Farrey" against the Tide of Uwongo wa NO.
 
THey do not neccessarily have to be in that Comittee, but I believe there are very important Roles that they are gonna play in the implementation. This I know for certain.
 
Jagem


From: Rose Kagwiria <ikirimakagwiria@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, August 28, 2010 12:47:36 PM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN


Zighe
Hi dear, i know it came as shock to you, but lets face reality. Very few women went public to support whatever was happening, and if my guess is right, it was because of the abortion clause which most felt would be blamed if they supported yes. I am a woman and i understand why women will never talk loud when it comes to matters of reproductive health. I would like to hear a female minister who went public to support YES campagn. Was there any? If No, are there female ministers in our parliament? If yes, why did they go against the government? If there was female minister who was campagning for YES and has not been selected for this committee, then that is too bad. We can ask publicly why she could not be included in the committee.
     What i am expecting is to see more women, pastors and priests in the committee of NO if any. This is where we even witness grenades as a sign of NO.
--- On Sat, 8/28/10, Ms zighe mwonga <zigheus@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ms zighe mwonga <zigheus@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 6:33 AM

Rose, unanistua!!! 



From: Rose Kagwiria <ikirimakagwiria@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 10:50:59 PM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

To all. I dont think women should be in this committee until they wake up

Thanks for bringing up this issue. Personally my feelings are very different from what people feel. During the campaign its mostly men who were fighting. The women who dared raise the voice were on NO side. Why do women want to eat food they never cooked? In these forums very few women dared campaign for Yes. The others were silent waiting for people to cook then they jump in front to eat. Nobody wanted to be known she is for Yes because she will not get sacrament on sunday or pastor so and so will excommunicate me from the Church. Shame on you women. Its the time you should SAY WHAT YOU DO and DO WHAT YOU SAY. Mr. Kibaki and the rest keep up with your good work. Give those who said loudly what they deserve and those who feared to be seen saying yes, Sorry you have to stand on your own principals. Have a great fearful day or night




--- On Thu, 8/26/10, maurice oduor <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca> wrote:

From: maurice oduor <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 5:53 AM

Zighe,
 
That's the beauty of this new constitution. If it's explicitly adhered to, it will provide a platform for this necessary change. Women will also be able to hold part of the sky, to quote Mao Tse Tung.  
 
Courage,
Maurice



From: Ms zighe mwonga <zigheus@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, August 26, 2010 6:28:17 AM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN


Then the female gender has a battle ahead coz how long does it take to change a mind set? 



From: maurice oduor <mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca>
To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 7:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: Action Committee- ALL MEN

Zighe,
 
That deficiency is something that struck me immediately. These people are completely steeped in this kind of thinking.
 
Courage,
Maurice



From: Ms zighe mwonga <zigheus@yahoo.com>
To: mlalahoi <mlalahoi@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 9:47:42 AM
Subject: Action Committee- ALL MEN


President Kibaki perfected the art of appointing commissions et al that comprised men only. Thank God we now have a new constitution. It is therefore unfortunate that the committee that is gonna forsee implementation of the same is made up of men only (cabinet minister, lawyers by profession). As much as there may not have been a female minister with the qualifications, they should have created room and made an exemption. Martha Karua played a major role in ensuring that we got a tight proof constitution. What makes it so hard to have her in this committee despite not being a minister? How sure are we as women that these men are gonna make sure that the gains we made are not lost?
 
Will put it the way Papa does.... Bureeeee Kabiiiiiiisa!
 
Zighe

 

 


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