Otieno Mbare Dr. PHd etc I hope i have not omitted any tittle.
I just do not respect elements who post their thinkings here to be read and when not agreed with they take it personal. Any leader or person wanting to be a leader does not propose a certain course of action until he has carefully looked at the difficulties and consequences involved. People who want or aspire to be leaders should study how things will work before they speak of them.A good leader or person who wants to be a leader should understand that he cannot be first in every contest. There fore guard your emotions. Temper your actions. By the way Dr. Otieno Mbare you can ring people like Dr. Oduor the head of Nyanza red cross during post election violence in 2007/2008 or Nurse Zulfa to tell you the role Dr. Paul Odero Nyandoto played in Kisumu during that time. The hospital I am working in have been yearly dispatching Drs. who go as far as Turkana, Nyanza hospitals etc to carry operations under development aid to Kenya not only to luos. I hear you are more concerned with what I have done in Gingo or Sindo etc. What I do know is that I am not good at are these: I do not like mouth feeding; I do not like giving people fish to eat or beer to drink, but I do like to teach or tell people to learn how to fish themselves or get a job and a life to buy his own beer himself, and I do find that to very odd with some of my fellow Kenyans even here in Finland. So my advice is this next time you post anything affecting or concerning nyanza as a province in this public thing be sure to get more fire than what you have got now. You can not go on stigmatizing a whole tribe and still want to be left alone that is exactly what Moi was doing but everybody knew Moi was a dictator and a tribalist: stop dreaming my fellow country man. My best advice to you is this: Stop looking for a Mps post or a political post in Kenya you are not good at it: Do you want to say that if you were an Mp now you will be paying taxes when others are not doing so, or you would not be with luo nyanza mps today?. Please look for a research center in Kenya if you are already tired of Finland. Do what you are good at, do not do what others are doing and thinking it is cool.
Paul Nyandoto
On 8/19/10, Kasipul Kabondo <awachtin@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nyandoto,
>
> I thought I should ignore you as I have done with most of your previous
> postings but I realized the more I ignore you, the more you continue with
> your trivialities. For the record, I hardly engage in personal exchanges. I
> would rather address the issues than engage my brain and time on useless
> ultercations. However, I hope you have got the attention you were looking
> for with such cheap postings. I assure you, you can get a lot of milage with
> my name! The only problem with me is that I like to speak my mind - those
> you are seeking their attention will tell you as much!
>
> BTW: Odero, why do you refer to my name with such intensity in your postings
> yet you don't know my person? You have made some baseless reference that "I
> like to call myself Dr". Bw. Odero, I earned my PhD in 2004. It's not a
> honorary degree, I worked hard to achieve it. So, stop your nonsense ati "he
> likes to call himself...." Gentleman, try to go slow especially in cases
> where you have never met that person. I have lived in this country for many
> years and I know you have been here for 4 decades. The only thing I knew
> about you is that you don't associate with people - you are indifferent!
> That explains why we getting to know you in the Internet. Honestly, it's not
> my character to go personal because the issues I raised are genuine issues
> that affects most people in Nyanza. As a matter of fact, I thought I
> provided our people with food for thought. I wanted us to assess our
> situation vis a vis other communities which had multiple parties - the way
> they gained in the coalition as compared to Luoland under one party!
>
> When it comes to defending the interests of our community, I don't think
> those who have chided me can measure to my efforts. You should be able to
> tell us the efforts you have made in Gingo to transform your community. It's
> cheap to type words in the Internet, therefore, anyone can easily be
> hoodwinked to believe what some people write here. We have the experience,
> that's why we hardly comment on every topic. I know the serious fellows here
> and those who are either retired, bored and seeking outlets where they can
> let off steam!
>
> Next time you want to comment on anything I have written, call me to get a
> clear position. It's does'nt help spewing gabbage in the Internet when you
> canm discuss with the person face to face. That may also provide us the
> opportunity to know each other ja Sindo! Even my some of my political
> friends who did not agree with my position, did call me privatelly to
> discuss the matter in a civil way. Remember, I'm not asking you to call me
> oin every issue I may post, what I'm saying is that the rejoinders should
> have some decorum. Stick to issues!
>
> Otieno Mbare
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto@phsotey.fi> wrote:
>
>
> From: Paul Nyandoto <paul.nyandoto@phsotey.fi>
> Subject: RAILA IS HOUNDING A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW
> To: mlalahoi@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 1:42 AM
>
>
>
> Kenyans,
>
> The prime has become a nightmare for a lot of people today. It looks that
> anything bad happening in Kenya is because of the prime minister. I do not
> know when Kibaki the president or Kalonzo the vice president or Uhuru the
> finance minister will also one day take responsibility for those bad things.
>
> Just read what Mr. Jackson Kiptanui ( Mp of Keiyo south - Rift valley ) who
> was replaced by Prof. Margaret Kamar ( Mp Eldoret east-Rift valley) as
> assistant minister for environment. The man has started to say; Raila is now
> segregating Kalenjins. That Kalenjins died for Raila and voted for Raila to
> become the president. Guys can you believe that a job is taken away from a
> Rift Valley Mp and given to a fellow Rift valley Mp: what is lacking in this
> man`s head?. Kenya is having 8 provinces; can somebody tell us how many
> Ministers are from Rift valley today: a lot compaired to other provinces.
> How will these people live with the new constitution which will allow only
> about 22 ministers?; How will they swallow that: Who ever they will vote for
> in 2012 will not sleep, I just do not know how the next president will
> divide about 22 ministries to the GREAT, GREAT, GOD LOVING MORE THAN OTHER
> PROVINCES, the RIFT VALLEY. By the way the deaths during post
> election violence was a crime that no grown up should keep on singing as
> some of the rift valley Mps are using as abargening chip all the time.
>
> This same Raila is not only hounding the rift valley Mps but also people
> from his corner from Luo land: The other day a very Big doctor as he calls
> himself: MR. Otieno Mbare started also criticising luo Mps and politics. But
> Mr. Mbare did forget that in Kenya pre independence politics and after
> independence the Luos really played and still playing a very big part which
> should not be forgotten especially by a son born in that province as MR.
> Otieno. This just also rings a bell on how less education is being given to
> the younger generations about Kenya today. Read even Kenyan representatives
> in any meeting abroad Lancaster etc. There was no delegates forum without a
> luo. Otieno did completely forgot the role Odinga played in the release of
> Jomo Kenyatta (the father of our Nation). Or completely forgot how many
> luos have been gunned down just because of demanding democracy and equal
> rights to all Kenyans. Infact gunned down by some groups Mr. Otieno is
> now praising as good democrates. Hatred does not pay especially if the
> person hating the other wanted something to be done for him free or given to
> him easily by Raila. There is competition in Kenya and very stiff, so guys
> who want to be MPs and are still living abroad here please go home to your
> constituents in time to make yourself known by the voters before election.
> Do not think that Raila or Kibaki or Kalonzo or Uhuru or Nyachae will just
> give you free tickets to parliament because of your CVs. CV have been used
> in bad ways, infact it also beats me why a Dr. holder wants to be an Mp, if
> it was MBA I can understand because an MBA holder is taught
> administration and handling of personels, BUT a pure science professor::: I
> just doubt if he can make a good leader. Holding PHD does not qualify
> somebody to be a leader; Please africans wake up before it is too late. PHd
> holders are needed in research since africa is still behind in those fields.
> But if you want to be a leader please add MBA from Havard or go to some
> administrative school for polishing the brain abit.
> Some beautiful lady by the name Rose asked if Cvs are needed to write in
> this forum?, Well my answer is this NO, NO,. NO. NO. but anybody can call
> himself anything he wants; Just like this: I am a good well grown up
> nephew to my uncle Sam. Or `Wuod Aoko`. I think that is enough: so what you
> read in classes or do in life has very little to do with what we do discuss
> in this forum. Just imagine topics like `kamba girls are sexy` how is that
> got to do with PHD?
>
> So what should we do with this Raila who is hounding a lot of Kenyans?. Guys
> ; use Raila today to get a good implementaion of this new draft as quickly
> as possible, time does not wait and when it comes to election 2012, reward
> politicians according to their perfomances not according to their hatred,
> tribalism, corruption, etc. I hope kenya get good leaders in 2012 , not only
> a good leader but many good leaders because that is what we do lack today.
> Forget about , hatred , tribalism and build the republic of Kenya(
> Jamhuru ya Kenya) for our future generations too.
>
> Paul Nyandoto.
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